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(The Philosophy Section of The Nexus eBook)
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1) Down The Rational Rabbit Hole
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a. Dig
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b. The Sense of Senses?
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2) The Goldfish Theory of Cultural Contact
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a. The Beach to Qomolangma
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3) They Are Here
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a. Who are We?
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b. The First Front
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c. The Second Front
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d. The Unnerved Sunflower
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4) The Gardeners Ethic
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a. Sociability
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b. Developmental Ethics
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c. By Definition Religious
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()  = needs citation!
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Have good arguments, research all  fallacies—let’s not get burnt by Burnt!
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Preamble
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It is the goal of this philosophical section to bridge the gap between the History and Scientific chapters,  and the utterly absurd and amazing reports of the Experience section. This effort will inevitably fail, though it is one which must be undertaken in order to provide some possible introduction to an otherness far beyond anything we can imagine.
 +
Although the arguments here may be laughable, the questions they pose are not.   
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 +
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1. Down The Rational Rabbit Hole
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 +
An analytical mind digs and digs through thoughts. Every now and then this digging uncovers something the digger might not rather see. This moment is an ethical test, do you look at what you’ve uncovered? Or do you re-burying it and dig somewhere else instead?
 +
When the first dinosaur was dug up for the first time, “ ”
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Our very ideas about ideas are culturally defined by cultural upbringing.
 +
 +
 +
The Sense of Senses?
 +
 +
In 1637, a Frenchman sat in chair in by a smoldering fire and dug himself to the center of all thoughts. He suffered wave after wave of rational doubt until the only rational truth in existence was “Je pense donc je suis,” or in English: I think, therefore I am. This man was philosopher Rene Descartes (1596 – 1650). He proved in his various Meditations that the only piece of 100% certain knowledge was the action of mental reflection; all else, the senses, the chair and the whole external universe, may or may not exist and is plagued with doubt as the senses fundamentally lie. 
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 +
Hume’s Felt Necessity: empiricism exists for convenience, not authority.
 +
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_induction
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hume#Causation
 +
Empiricism is an immensely valuable tool. Good Data always has 95% probability of representing “reality,()” and is an excellent way to eliminate a lot of crap. However samples DO NOT equal reality. What we cannot measure doesn’t equal “proof/nonproof of existence.
 +
 +
Hallucination presents interesting problems to Empiricism. The Phantom Nose Bleed Problem. The limited tools we use to evaluate hyperspace are the same tools we use to evaluate this world. Our senses.
 +
 +
 +
2 The Goldfish Theory of Cultural Contact
 +
 +
 +
We are goldfish in a bag carefully moving from the small tank to the big tank. We must slowly adjust to the new water on our own before we are freed into the universe to play.
 +
 +
We cannot air-lift an annoying family member from the beach to top of Mt. Qomolangma. It may make our vacation nicer and our sangrias tastier, but this action of clashing an unadapted system into another without proper preparation has ethical consequences, as her blood will boil, her toes will freeze, and her brain will swell and explode. As satisfying as this might seem like an a moment of passion, we all know better and it’s wrong. Likewise with a goldfish, we cannot buy a new fish from a pet shop and drop it in our tank at home, because no matter how friendly the old inhabitants might be, the new fish will die from shock at the new water... Thus all interactions between vastly different systems must be ethically managed to follow an appropriate path of stress.
 +
To banish our family member from the beach to a mountaintop must be done ethically. We need to spend a few weeks cross country running to improve her O2 consumption efficiency; we need to buy her warm clothing; we need to gradually adjust her altitude to 8848m slowly starting from 3000m, then 4500m and gradually raising for the next several weeks! Even despite our best adaptive efforts, the natural variation of her biological system may not allow her to survive past 7500m like some climbers, and her system will collapse. 
 +
 +
 +
 +
3 They Are Here
 +
 +
 +
They are here. But first, who are we?
 +
Life is universal. On Earth, life is stubborn and persistent and pervasive to the extreme—found even in the most odd and impossible places (). Life on earth is young, and the universe is old. Vertebrates have existed for 500 million years, trees for 370 million, land animals for 360million years(). The physical universe is over 12 billion years old()!  Old enough for simple cells to turn into Humans ~20 times()!
 +
The exponential pace of life, of technology, and what it means for the next hundred years.  Singularity University (http://singularityu.org/). What would it mean to be born 300million years earlier? The class of civilizations()[we are a .62].
 +
So where is everyone? SETI arguments(). Not a peep from the skies, nor ancient factories buried in the bedrock. Although this remains theoretical unless observable reality provides some clues.
 +
 +
THEY ARE HERE. Everyone is well aware of our cultural folk lore concerning UFOs(). Everyone is chidingly aware of the abduction stories, of what a flying saucer looks like, and at rare moments, we even hear these stories on the news (CNN 2008). However, it is the thesis of this section that unlike the “Lockness Monster,” some UFOs are in fact real extra-terrestrial crafts; AND that to the surprise of Ufologists there is not only one front of contact but two fronts of contact; the physical and the psychedelic fronts! At this point, some of our skeptical readers may wish proceed to the Experience Report Section before exploring the arguments here; as listening to direct testimony is crucial in shedding the indefinite coat of skepticism. 
 +
The First Front
 +
The military intelligence apparatus is primed to observe with open eyes, detect threats and share information as it exists, without filters(). As Occam’s Razor has no place in war and politics, as the simplest answer may be very very wrong. 
 +
The Black Swan Event, the story of Pearl Harbor: here.
 +
 +
If CNN can catch this story, of course the military and intelligence community knows about it; and they better, or what the hell are we paying for??
 +
Rosewell, etc. It’s nationalist pride to say our government “is so advanced and savvy it has obviously tremendously awesome Top Secret gizmos.” This may indeed be true, but we have to think of the scale, once we do, we see it’s impossible to hide a mile wide hovering triangle with a shimmering cloaking device and silent hypersonic speed.  Phoenix Lights 911 calls (transcripts).
 +
 +
The National Security Shadow State (NSSS)
 +
Here’s a True Rabbit Hole:  What if a secret US Supreme Court decision stated there can be secret Supreme Court decisions in the name of national security, paved the legal path for secret organizations to handle such absurdly strange problems? Obviously this is terrifying conjecture. Though credible rumors abound of secret and shadowy agencies with tremendous power and secrecy…(). 
 +
But don’t hold your breath; the NSSS will never self-disclose what they know. Why should they? No organization acts against its own interests; where is the political gain()? Playing “super spy” is cool, and maybe they’ve done some not too legal things with some of the money they’ve gotten….
 +
More so, talking about the presence of The Other is simply awkward. How the hell can they tell the whole country without utter destructive chaos? Many times has this author typed these pages in a nice café or bar to have curious wait staff naturally ask what he’s working on? Saying that “I’m working on a book which says the use of ‘drugs’ allows you to talk to aliens” won’t fly. So the author lies. So too must the NSSS. We the public must disclose this information to ourselves with patience, open mindedness and reason. Do your part. Have the awkward conversation with yourself so the NSSS doesn’t have to and share this book! 
 +
 +
The implications of the technological capability of these advanced civilizations is mind bending.
 +
Disappear when grab camera, intense emotions, mind bending hallucinations... If we have primitive MRI machines, then They ought easily read minds form a distance. Some abduction reports state total mind control().
 +
 +
 +
The Second Front
 +
 +
Same time as Roswell: The Story of LSD
 +
Great system: some need mysterious radar returns, some need vast conspiracies, some need odd news reports, some need to meet them in person. ALSO it’s great for us primitive economies because for about $67 bucks you can travel a billion light years plus, rather than spend the estimated $734 trillion() to get up to light speed and hop through the galaxy with near future technology. We have obviously better things to do with that money like sustain the planet, our society, and the other things that makes us human.
 +
Also, why would you wait to send a trouble young teenager to counseling only after they’ve graduated college? It would be foolish and reckless to leave a young civilization unsupervised when the resources to do so are so comparably minimal, and the eventual reward so great.
 +
A vast hyperspace apparatus to watch us primitives is also a convenient system for these Advanced Entitles; because psychedelics, as mentioned in our previous health and safely section, have an amazing ability (either implicitly or explicitly) to cleanse our psyche of emotional blockages, bad habits, and other subconscious issues; like taking a bath before going to church.
 +
Watch from another dimension and be right next to you and in your mind without you even noticing.  Great for uninveasive anthropology studies. Random popping and clicking’s in your mind, measuring your response to how you read these very words even.
 +
Problems arises with the Clever Deceiver, when your thoughts are not just your thoughts.
 +
The mind, not the body must sleep().
 +
Where do thoughts exist? Memes, Parasites: Fauna of the gut, and that of the mind.  https://www.dmt-nexus.com/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&m=120695#post120695
 +
Your mind is a plant in a pot: hyperspace lifts it up and transplants your mind form one plant to another. 
 +
How does the paper understand the printer when all it meets is the ink head?
 +
 +
 +
 +
4 The Gardeners Ethic
 +
 +
There can be no dogma of The Other as they are fundamentally unknown. Only actual experience (or non-experience)  may elude to a rational guesswork which may bring us significant places from simple pieces of evidence.
 +
Basic Principle: MUST BE sociable to advance, cooperation is everywhere in natural systems().
 +
MUST BE ethical to endure, ethics are more than “good/bad,” but what sustains best practices. An ethical economy will last much longer than an unethical economy. 
 +
Why? Because black holes are boring. They never change. The drama of growing up is much more entertaining, meaningful, and unexpected. 
 +
Nature provides all the ingredients, determines all specifications and does all the hard work while the gardeners watch, prunes, fertilizes and waits. And one day, the gardener will enjoy the blossoms once us creatures are strong and able enough to finally leave the nursery.
 +
How ought you handle a child who’s prone to jumping in hot lava?
 +
The luck of Hitler and how we might notice their interference in your lives. Rule one: we can never be certain. All manipulations must qualify as random background thoughts sitting in your mind. Nor can a pumpkin turn into a pine tree. Nor can you transplant a pumpkin to the tropics.
 +
 +
If you were a plant from the things you say, I’d feel it safe to say you’ve outgrown your pot! Your roots have expanded in so many directions they’ve nowhere to go and are tangled around each other and various rocks and sticks--and all this stress and frustration is making you wilt. Yes, therapy can help clarify your roots and discover what’s strangling them; and if you’re lucky you might session by session reason your roots to other directions, and feel better.
 +
With psychedelics however your whole plant, stalk, and roots are entirely lifted into a whole new dimension. Here your entire psyche is laid out, the sticks and rocks (and even bugs!) are washed clean and you receive a new pile of soil, a new pot, and much relief!  Although this process can be unnerving for a plant, as it may be distressing to see such intimately placed rocks and tangles emerge into consciousness… and for as frustrating and confining as the small pot is, it feels safe and familiar despite the fact the constriction is killing its potential... It is very important for this plant to know how special it is to the other plants around it and how much it adds to the social garden. The other plants don’t want to see their friend wilt. Especially when the solution (with some courage) is so simple.
 +
 +
It might be very likely you’ve been guided to read these very words. So tell me reader, do you feel like a “zombie,” or a “tool” with an utter lack of self? As far as we can tell, this is the limits of how the hyperspace front interacts with our side of the world; they can nudge us nowhere beyond what we might readily do anyways. They have no orders or commands, just the subtle quiet voice of ourselves.
 +
 +
 +
When you quiet your mind, the universe enters. 
 +
Grey Sacajaweas.
 +
Rationally, these are gods, and likely have been for a long time. Why god:
 +
The respectful use of ethnobotanicals is inherently religious. Perhaps this may be upsetting ideas to many religions. But if god is a true entity, then whatever it is by definition MUST BE extra-terrestrial! As there is little evidence in Earth’s history to suggest a god creature has developed here.  Perhaps the many individuals were orchestrated into divine movements. 
 +
The religion question is one i, and many of us here agree on and it will be a necessary path to openly approach the public. Although i think our many of our "neo-shamanic-post-monotheistic" beliefs are bit too strange even for us. I believe the respectful use of botanicals is intrinsically religious: we have a set (although limited) ritual and sacrament, we have an educational community; and we approach, commune with, and get teased by Great Celestial Powers we don't understand (and so on). Even IF one was previously atheist, by these definitions one is participating in a religion.
 +
Though we will need a bit more time for the whole community to jump aboard that bandwagon entirely, and without alienation
 +
What do you call this? Neo-shamanism? Post-monotheism?

Revision as of 16:41, 9 March 2010

This is the "Introduction to The Other" section of the Nexus eBook.

iv. Introducing The Other

Author: Acolyte, azrael, ?
5-20 pages


Helpful thread

https://www.dmt-nexus.com/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&m=123565#post123565


Possible Structure:


+ Ability to Listen

+ The Black Swan Event

+ Down The Rabbit Hole of Reason

+ They Are Here.

+ Their Theoretical Ethics.


Chapter Content

[ space reserved for chapter's content ]


(The Philosophy Section of The Nexus eBook)

1) Down The Rational Rabbit Hole a. Dig b. The Sense of Senses?

2) The Goldfish Theory of Cultural Contact a. The Beach to Qomolangma

3) They Are Here a. Who are We? b. The First Front c. The Second Front d. The Unnerved Sunflower

4) The Gardeners Ethic a. Sociability b. Developmental Ethics c. By Definition Religious

() = needs citation!

Have good arguments, research all fallacies—let’s not get burnt by Burnt!


Preamble

It is the goal of this philosophical section to bridge the gap between the History and Scientific chapters, and the utterly absurd and amazing reports of the Experience section. This effort will inevitably fail, though it is one which must be undertaken in order to provide some possible introduction to an otherness far beyond anything we can imagine. Although the arguments here may be laughable, the questions they pose are not.


1. Down The Rational Rabbit Hole

An analytical mind digs and digs through thoughts. Every now and then this digging uncovers something the digger might not rather see. This moment is an ethical test, do you look at what you’ve uncovered? Or do you re-burying it and dig somewhere else instead? When the first dinosaur was dug up for the first time, “ ” Our very ideas about ideas are culturally defined by cultural upbringing.


The Sense of Senses?

In 1637, a Frenchman sat in chair in by a smoldering fire and dug himself to the center of all thoughts. He suffered wave after wave of rational doubt until the only rational truth in existence was “Je pense donc je suis,” or in English: I think, therefore I am. This man was philosopher Rene Descartes (1596 – 1650). He proved in his various Meditations that the only piece of 100% certain knowledge was the action of mental reflection; all else, the senses, the chair and the whole external universe, may or may not exist and is plagued with doubt as the senses fundamentally lie.

Hume’s Felt Necessity: empiricism exists for convenience, not authority. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_induction http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hume#Causation Empiricism is an immensely valuable tool. Good Data always has 95% probability of representing “reality,()” and is an excellent way to eliminate a lot of crap. However samples DO NOT equal reality. What we cannot measure doesn’t equal “proof/nonproof of existence.

Hallucination presents interesting problems to Empiricism. The Phantom Nose Bleed Problem. The limited tools we use to evaluate hyperspace are the same tools we use to evaluate this world. Our senses.


2 The Goldfish Theory of Cultural Contact


We are goldfish in a bag carefully moving from the small tank to the big tank. We must slowly adjust to the new water on our own before we are freed into the universe to play.

We cannot air-lift an annoying family member from the beach to top of Mt. Qomolangma. It may make our vacation nicer and our sangrias tastier, but this action of clashing an unadapted system into another without proper preparation has ethical consequences, as her blood will boil, her toes will freeze, and her brain will swell and explode. As satisfying as this might seem like an a moment of passion, we all know better and it’s wrong. Likewise with a goldfish, we cannot buy a new fish from a pet shop and drop it in our tank at home, because no matter how friendly the old inhabitants might be, the new fish will die from shock at the new water... Thus all interactions between vastly different systems must be ethically managed to follow an appropriate path of stress. To banish our family member from the beach to a mountaintop must be done ethically. We need to spend a few weeks cross country running to improve her O2 consumption efficiency; we need to buy her warm clothing; we need to gradually adjust her altitude to 8848m slowly starting from 3000m, then 4500m and gradually raising for the next several weeks! Even despite our best adaptive efforts, the natural variation of her biological system may not allow her to survive past 7500m like some climbers, and her system will collapse.


3 They Are Here


They are here. But first, who are we? Life is universal. On Earth, life is stubborn and persistent and pervasive to the extreme—found even in the most odd and impossible places (). Life on earth is young, and the universe is old. Vertebrates have existed for 500 million years, trees for 370 million, land animals for 360million years(). The physical universe is over 12 billion years old()! Old enough for simple cells to turn into Humans ~20 times()! The exponential pace of life, of technology, and what it means for the next hundred years. Singularity University (http://singularityu.org/). What would it mean to be born 300million years earlier? The class of civilizations()[we are a .62]. So where is everyone? SETI arguments(). Not a peep from the skies, nor ancient factories buried in the bedrock. Although this remains theoretical unless observable reality provides some clues.

THEY ARE HERE. Everyone is well aware of our cultural folk lore concerning UFOs(). Everyone is chidingly aware of the abduction stories, of what a flying saucer looks like, and at rare moments, we even hear these stories on the news (CNN 2008). However, it is the thesis of this section that unlike the “Lockness Monster,” some UFOs are in fact real extra-terrestrial crafts; AND that to the surprise of Ufologists there is not only one front of contact but two fronts of contact; the physical and the psychedelic fronts! At this point, some of our skeptical readers may wish proceed to the Experience Report Section before exploring the arguments here; as listening to direct testimony is crucial in shedding the indefinite coat of skepticism. The First Front The military intelligence apparatus is primed to observe with open eyes, detect threats and share information as it exists, without filters(). As Occam’s Razor has no place in war and politics, as the simplest answer may be very very wrong. The Black Swan Event, the story of Pearl Harbor: here.

If CNN can catch this story, of course the military and intelligence community knows about it; and they better, or what the hell are we paying for?? Rosewell, etc. It’s nationalist pride to say our government “is so advanced and savvy it has obviously tremendously awesome Top Secret gizmos.” This may indeed be true, but we have to think of the scale, once we do, we see it’s impossible to hide a mile wide hovering triangle with a shimmering cloaking device and silent hypersonic speed. Phoenix Lights 911 calls (transcripts).

The National Security Shadow State (NSSS) Here’s a True Rabbit Hole: What if a secret US Supreme Court decision stated there can be secret Supreme Court decisions in the name of national security, paved the legal path for secret organizations to handle such absurdly strange problems? Obviously this is terrifying conjecture. Though credible rumors abound of secret and shadowy agencies with tremendous power and secrecy…(). But don’t hold your breath; the NSSS will never self-disclose what they know. Why should they? No organization acts against its own interests; where is the political gain()? Playing “super spy” is cool, and maybe they’ve done some not too legal things with some of the money they’ve gotten…. More so, talking about the presence of The Other is simply awkward. How the hell can they tell the whole country without utter destructive chaos? Many times has this author typed these pages in a nice café or bar to have curious wait staff naturally ask what he’s working on? Saying that “I’m working on a book which says the use of ‘drugs’ allows you to talk to aliens” won’t fly. So the author lies. So too must the NSSS. We the public must disclose this information to ourselves with patience, open mindedness and reason. Do your part. Have the awkward conversation with yourself so the NSSS doesn’t have to and share this book!

The implications of the technological capability of these advanced civilizations is mind bending. Disappear when grab camera, intense emotions, mind bending hallucinations... If we have primitive MRI machines, then They ought easily read minds form a distance. Some abduction reports state total mind control().


The Second Front

Same time as Roswell: The Story of LSD Great system: some need mysterious radar returns, some need vast conspiracies, some need odd news reports, some need to meet them in person. ALSO it’s great for us primitive economies because for about $67 bucks you can travel a billion light years plus, rather than spend the estimated $734 trillion() to get up to light speed and hop through the galaxy with near future technology. We have obviously better things to do with that money like sustain the planet, our society, and the other things that makes us human.

Also, why would you wait to send a trouble young teenager to counseling only after they’ve graduated college? It would be foolish and reckless to leave a young civilization unsupervised when the resources to do so are so comparably minimal, and the eventual reward so great. 

A vast hyperspace apparatus to watch us primitives is also a convenient system for these Advanced Entitles; because psychedelics, as mentioned in our previous health and safely section, have an amazing ability (either implicitly or explicitly) to cleanse our psyche of emotional blockages, bad habits, and other subconscious issues; like taking a bath before going to church. Watch from another dimension and be right next to you and in your mind without you even noticing. Great for uninveasive anthropology studies. Random popping and clicking’s in your mind, measuring your response to how you read these very words even. Problems arises with the Clever Deceiver, when your thoughts are not just your thoughts. The mind, not the body must sleep(). Where do thoughts exist? Memes, Parasites: Fauna of the gut, and that of the mind. https://www.dmt-nexus.com/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&m=120695#post120695 Your mind is a plant in a pot: hyperspace lifts it up and transplants your mind form one plant to another. How does the paper understand the printer when all it meets is the ink head?


4 The Gardeners Ethic

There can be no dogma of The Other as they are fundamentally unknown. Only actual experience (or non-experience) may elude to a rational guesswork which may bring us significant places from simple pieces of evidence. Basic Principle: MUST BE sociable to advance, cooperation is everywhere in natural systems(). MUST BE ethical to endure, ethics are more than “good/bad,” but what sustains best practices. An ethical economy will last much longer than an unethical economy. Why? Because black holes are boring. They never change. The drama of growing up is much more entertaining, meaningful, and unexpected. Nature provides all the ingredients, determines all specifications and does all the hard work while the gardeners watch, prunes, fertilizes and waits. And one day, the gardener will enjoy the blossoms once us creatures are strong and able enough to finally leave the nursery. How ought you handle a child who’s prone to jumping in hot lava? The luck of Hitler and how we might notice their interference in your lives. Rule one: we can never be certain. All manipulations must qualify as random background thoughts sitting in your mind. Nor can a pumpkin turn into a pine tree. Nor can you transplant a pumpkin to the tropics.

If you were a plant from the things you say, I’d feel it safe to say you’ve outgrown your pot! Your roots have expanded in so many directions they’ve nowhere to go and are tangled around each other and various rocks and sticks--and all this stress and frustration is making you wilt. Yes, therapy can help clarify your roots and discover what’s strangling them; and if you’re lucky you might session by session reason your roots to other directions, and feel better. With psychedelics however your whole plant, stalk, and roots are entirely lifted into a whole new dimension. Here your entire psyche is laid out, the sticks and rocks (and even bugs!) are washed clean and you receive a new pile of soil, a new pot, and much relief! Although this process can be unnerving for a plant, as it may be distressing to see such intimately placed rocks and tangles emerge into consciousness… and for as frustrating and confining as the small pot is, it feels safe and familiar despite the fact the constriction is killing its potential... It is very important for this plant to know how special it is to the other plants around it and how much it adds to the social garden. The other plants don’t want to see their friend wilt. Especially when the solution (with some courage) is so simple.

It might be very likely you’ve been guided to read these very words. So tell me reader, do you feel like a “zombie,” or a “tool” with an utter lack of self? As far as we can tell, this is the limits of how the hyperspace front interacts with our side of the world; they can nudge us nowhere beyond what we might readily do anyways. They have no orders or commands, just the subtle quiet voice of ourselves.


When you quiet your mind, the universe enters. Grey Sacajaweas. Rationally, these are gods, and likely have been for a long time. Why god:

The respectful use of ethnobotanicals is inherently religious. Perhaps this may be upsetting ideas to many religions. But if god is a true entity, then whatever it is by definition MUST BE extra-terrestrial! As there is little evidence in Earth’s history to suggest a god creature has developed here.   Perhaps the many individuals were orchestrated into divine movements.   

The religion question is one i, and many of us here agree on and it will be a necessary path to openly approach the public. Although i think our many of our "neo-shamanic-post-monotheistic" beliefs are bit too strange even for us. I believe the respectful use of botanicals is intrinsically religious: we have a set (although limited) ritual and sacrament, we have an educational community; and we approach, commune with, and get teased by Great Celestial Powers we don't understand (and so on). Even IF one was previously atheist, by these definitions one is participating in a religion. Though we will need a bit more time for the whole community to jump aboard that bandwagon entirely, and without alienation What do you call this? Neo-shamanism? Post-monotheism?