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= Introduction =
 
  
'''CIELO''' stands for '''C'''rystals '''I'''n '''E'''thyl-acetate '''L'''eisurely '''O'''TC (Over The Counter).
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=Introduction 🙏=
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Pure DMT free base can form white crystals, yellow powder, and orange to red wax/goo. This wide range of appearance could be due to self aggregation because of indole ring pi bond stacking <ref>Polymer MS evidence[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=88183]</ref> (see Fig. 1).
  
  
In this TEK, aqueous alkaline cactus paste is extracted with ethyl acetate. The extract is salted with excess citric acid to force the precipitation of mescaline citrate crystals directly in the solvent.
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This technique (TEK) focuses on maximizing white crystalline DMT by minimizing self aggregation during extraction.
  
  
This process was developed in a loving collaborarion at the DMT nexus. Deep thanks and gratitude to everyone who contributed.
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Thanks to benzyme for showing MS evidence of DMT weakly bonding to itself, and to Jees, downwardsfromzero, IridiumAndLace, and Loveall for their contributions to this process in the forum<ref>Minimum Polymer[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=97103]</ref>.
  
== Safety ==
 
  
Review ethyl acetate's safety information<ref>Ethyl acetate safety[https://www.msdsonline.com/2015/04/10/ethyl-acetate-a-sweet-smelling-safety-hazard/#:~:text=Ethyl%20acetate%20is%20highly%20flammable,with%20the%20eyes%20or%20skin.]</ref> and check the manufacture's MSDS to verify you have pure ethyl acetate.
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[[File:Dmt copy 800x364.png| center]]
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<center>''Fig. 1: Mass spectrum of DMT goo (from benzyme). Peaks in multiples of 188m/z unmask the nature of DMT goo as DMT-DMT bonding aggregation (possibly through indole ring pi stacking).</center>
  
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= Safety ⛑️=
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Review NaOH<ref>NaOH safety[https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/sodium-hydroxide/default.html]</ref> and naphtha <ref>Naphtha safety[https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npg/npgd0664.html]</ref> safety information. Verify solvent MSDS purity, plastic compatibility, and clean evaporation.
  
Make sure any plastic you use is compatible with ethyl acetate and verify your ethyl acetate evaporates cleanly.
 
  
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Never have solvents near an open flame.
  
Following this advice does not guarantee safety. It is up to each free adult individual to make their own decision on proceeding with this process.
 
  
== Materials ==
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Following this advice does not guarantee safety. It is up to each adult individual to make their own decision.
  
* Quart jars
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=Materials🛒=
* Weight sales (gram and mg)
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==Consumables👩‍🌾==
* 300g water
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* 800ml water
* 25g Ca(OH)2 (lime)
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* 100g of mimosa hostilis root bark
* 100g powdered dry cacti
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* 10g ascorbic acid (Vitamin C)
* 200g CaCl2
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* 50g KCl
* ~ 1000g ethyl acetate ("MEK substitute")
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* 250ml of '''light''' naphtha/hydrocarbons†
* Citric acid
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* 25g of NaOH
* Coffee filter and funnel
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* Water, shallow baking dish, razor blade, storage jar
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== Process ==
 
  
=== Paste ===
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†''It is very important to use a source of light hydrocarbons (~8 carbon chains or lower). The smaller organic molecules used in lighter fluids seem to reduce DMT aggregation. Naptha used in paint thinning applications tends to be too heavy (10+ carbon chains). Ronsonol is a good lighter fluid choice available over the counter. Avoid products with anti rust or dyes (e.g. Coleman camping fuel).''
  
Mix water, lime, and cactus powder to a homogeneous paste. Run in microwave until it starts to boil and mix in CaCl2.
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==Equipment🏺==
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* Stovetop
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* Pot with lid
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* Quart jars
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* Scale
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* Pipette
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* Shallow pyrex baking dish
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* Freezer
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* Fan
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* Scraping tool
  
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= Process Overview 👀 =
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*Cell lysing❄️: In a small pot, freeze/thaw powdered bark and water three times
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*De-polymerize💔: Add citric acid together with KCl and brew at 150F for an hour and cool
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*Pull👩‍🔬: Add light hydrocarbon solvent, basify with NaOH, shake and pull warm solvent at ~120F. Repeat 5x
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*Collect✨: Freeze precipate solvent<sup>†</sup>, decant, dry, and scrape
  
[[File:Screenshot_20210311-161134.png|center]]
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''<sup>†</sup>Evaporation is skipped and max yield is achieved on reused solvent.
  
=== Pull ===  
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= Detailed Process 📜=
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== Cell Lysing ❄️==
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Freeze/thaw bark mixed with 800ml of water in a pot with a lid. Repeat twice for a total of 3 times. Process can be sped up defrosting over low heat.
  
Add ~ 300g of ethyl acetate to the paste and mix gently for a few seconds to release air bubbles. Passively extract for 3 minutes and separate solvent with a french press or a coffee filter.  
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==De-polymerization💔==
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Stir in ascorbic acid and KCl. Heat gently to 150F. Cover pot with lid and keep it at this temperature (e.g. using very low heat) for one hour.
  
  
It is important to never shake or stir quickly to minimize the ammount of solvent binding to the paste.
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Ascorbic acid and plant enzymes degrade at high temperatures, especially above 150F-175F. K+ ions are good at disturbing DMT pi bond aggregation in water and superior to Na+ ions.
  
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== Pull 👩‍🔬==
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Transfer treated liquid and bark to a mason quart jar (or another suitable container). Add water if needed so quart jar is close to being full. Shake in ~65ml of light naphtha. Add lye and shake vigorously for a few minutes. Solution will warm up slightly as lye dissolves and will quickly go from red, to milky, to dark red.
  
Immediately pull three more times with ~175g of ethyl acetate. All four pulls and should be done within ~25 minutes.
 
  
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Rest jar in a warm water bath until naphtha layer separates (~10 minutes, see Fig. 3). If separation is not complete after 30 minutes, mix in another 5g of lye and try again.
  
Combined pulls will give ~675g (~750ml) of deep green extract (~150g will be absorbed during the early pulls). Image below shows the finished extract against a window with horizontal blinds. Darkness and transparency can vary, but extract should be clear with no clouds.
 
  
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Move naphtha into a pint jar with a pipette It is ok if a few drops of watery extract or bark particles come through (they will be decanted in the next section).
  
[[File:Screenshot_20210311-161548.png| center]]
 
  
=== Salt ===
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Add another ~65ml of naphtha to the quart jar. Shake for a few minutes, rest in a warm water bath until layers separate, and pipette naphtha into the pint jar. Perform this step two more times (total of 4 pulls, including the first one).
  
Dissolve ~ 3.5g (~1/2 tsp) of citric acid (~0.5% concentration) into the extract by shaking or using a magnetic stirrer.
 
  
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Ideally, all four pulls are done within an hour while the quart jar is slightly warm from the lye dissolving in water.
  
Solution will become cloudy/milky followed by quick crystalization. Once solution is clear again this step is complete.
 
  
=== Finish ===
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[[File:IMG 20211020 090639578 copy 600x1122 copy 427x800.jpg|center]]
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<center>''Fig. 3: Settled naphtha pull ready to be pipetted.</center>
  
Shake precipitated extract to loosen some of the crystals on the jar walls. Pour through a coffee filter to catch the loose crystals. Repeat this a few times with small amounts of fresh ethyl acetate until green color is removed. Pausing a couple minutes between filter rinses helps wick the green away.
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== Crystalize ✨==
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Carefully decant naphtha pulls to a new fresh pint jar. Do not allow any watery extract or particles to come through.
  
  
Once dry, is this how the product caught in the filter looks:
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Place naphtha in freezer to precipitate crystals<sup>†</sup>. Rest in freezer until cloudiness clears (at least 24 hours).
  
[[File:Screenshot 20210312-234218.png|center]]
 
  
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Decant naphtha off crystals, and immediately dry with the help of a fan.  Once dry, dissolve xtals in a minimal amount of boiling fresh naphtha (~25ml) for 15 minutes, pout into a shallow baking dish, evaporate slowly (no fan), and scrape. This is the final product. Yields are typically 1 to 3%.
  
Some crystals usually remain suck to the jar walls. They can be recovered by dissolving in warm water and evaporating slowly at room temperature. Optionally, the product caught in the filter can be dissolved into the warm water before evaporation. This results in needle-like crystals that scrape up easily (see images below).
 
  
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''<sup>†</sup>If new naphtha was used, one option is to evaporate the solvent until slightly cloudy with the help of a fan in a well ventilated area. A better option is to skip the solvent evaporation. Yield will be lower by ~500mg if using new naphtha, but it will be available for reuse as a one-time "investment" for the next extraction. Subsequently, used naphtha does not need to be evaporated before freezing to get the full yield since it already comes preloaded with a DMT concentration that is saturated at the freezer's temperature.''
  
[[File:Screenshot 20210320-093816.png|center]]
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== Reclaim Solvent 💚==
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Reusing solvents is encouraged<ref>On reusing non polar solvent[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=31398]</ref> at the DMT nexus.
  
  
[[File: Screenshot_20210401-095800.png|center]]
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Simply reuse freeze precipitated naphtha as-is. Re-used naphtha is saturated with DMT at freezer the temperature (~2mg/ml) and pre-freezer evaporation is not needed. Easy 😊
  
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= Frequently Asked Questions ❓ =
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'''Q: That's a lot of hypothesis you got down in the appendix. Have any experimental evidence consistent with them?'''
  
Mass spectrometry (MS) results from solaris analytical<ref>Solaris analytical service[https://www.solarisanalytical.com/]</ref> indicate the product is very clean mescaline. See MS spectrum below, peak near 210.5 is mescaline. Peaks at and 193.6, 178.4, and 162.0 are believed to be mescaline with amine/methyl/methoxy groups cleaved to generate the lower mass mescaline spectrum in multiples of ~16 au (16.9, 32.1, and 48.5 respectively). The small peak at 239.5 is not attributed to mescaline.
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A: Yes. Benzyme's MS, together with polymerization and de-polymerization experiments. As far as we know experiments are consistent with the hypotheses listed. The community is welcome to update this Wiki entry as more evidence arises, especially if any of the hypotheses are disproved (thank you).
  
  
[[File: Screenshot_20210310-062431.png|center]]
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'''Q: What's so special about Vitamin C?'''
  
== Lab Notes ==
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A: See the development notes in appendix below.
  
The pulls appear to be very efficient, extracting mescaline within minutes. The similarity between the solvent's ethoxy group and mescaline's methoxy groups could contribute to the solubility. Long pulls make the paste congeal together and trivial to decant, but congealed paste can lower yield and there is a risk of ethyl acetate reacting with lime or free base over time. Whatever the reason(s), quickness gives good yields experimentally and is recommended.
 
  
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'''Q: Why are there only 3 pulls without a warm water bath or salting out ionic strength? Usually ~5 warm (40-50C) + high ionic strength pulls (~6% NaCl) are needed.'''
  
Heating during the pull was tested and did not improve yields. Instead, it gave the product a tan color.
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A: DMT monomer is highly soluble in naphtha and has an excellent partition coefficient. By converting natural DMT to this form, and keeping alkaline conditions gentle to avoid polymerization, the pulls are simpler and very efficient. No added heat or ionic strength is necessary.
  
  
It is possible to chemically dry the extract with a drying agent such as anhydrous MgSO4 before salting. However, no clear yield benefit was observed by performing this step. Usually, the water content in ethyl acetate directly from the pulls is naturally in a good range experimentally. Not resting for at least a couple minutes before pulling or aggressive squeezing may change this and result in water droplets. If droplets are encountered, adding more citric acid and/or fresh ethyl acetate, and shaking can resolve this issue.
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'''Q: What is the difference between DMT polymers, oligomers, aggregates, and aromatic pi-pi stacking?'''
  
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A: None, all names are equivalent and refer to the same thing: weakly bonded groups of DMT molecules that form goo instead of crystals.
  
During salting, every 10mg of citric acid ('''H3Cit''') reacts with enough free base mescaline ('''Mes''') to precipitate up to 43mg of mescaline citrate (or slightly more if a hydrate form is precipitating):
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= Appendix: Development Notes 🔬=
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== Hypotheses 🤔==
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This TEK hypothesizes that:  
  
  
'''<span style="color: Orange"> <div style="text-align: center;">3Mes<sub>()</sub> + H3Cit<sub>()</sub> ⇒ 3(MesH)Cit<sub>(↓)</sub></div></span>'''
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*Not all of the DMT is in the plant in monomer form, some of it is in macro-molecule form (also called polymer, oligomer, or goo)
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*In addition to natural DMT polymer, even more polymer can form during the basing step under high alkaline, high ionic strength, and high DMT concentration conditions
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*Once natural DMT polymer is broken down, gentle alkaline conditions keep it from forming again
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*Goo can also form in the solvent. Using lighter naphtha (shorter carbon chains) minimizes DMT goo formation.
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*DMT monomer properties compared to DMT polymer:
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**Easier to dissolve in naphtha (better partition coefficient)
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**Barely clouds during naphtha evaporation
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**Slowly crashes during freeze precipitation as white crystals. In contrast, DMT polymer precipitates sooner as yellow/orange/red semisolid goo
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**Easier to handle and dose precisely
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**Low and consistent vaporization temperature, ideal for newer electronic vaporization devices with precisely tuned temperature settings
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**Visibly unique upon crystalization, eliminating questions around plant oil contaminants
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**May be easier to complex with HPBCD for sublingual administration
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**It is unknown if it has better bioavailability for oral or rectal administration. In principle, stomach acid should be able to break down DMT polymer, so perhaps there is no difference for oral administration
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**There is no expected benefit for torch vaporization by an experienced user since the strong heat produced manually can easily vaporize everything. However, the process window between vaporizing and burning the DMT is larger for the monomer which may benefit the inexperienced user
  
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==Strategy ♟️==
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The strategy of this minimum polymer TEK is to break down both natural DMT aggregates during the acid step and minimize DMT aggregation during the basing and pulling steps.
  
250mg of citric acid are enough to convert mescaline from free base to salt for the typical cactus (up to 1% yield). However, and outlier like the legendary Ogun would need ~1100mg of citric acid for a 4.7% yield. The amount used on the TEK (3.5g) is enough for the most potent of cacti.
 
  
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Aggressive alkaline concentration conditions are avoided. While these type of processes can break down plant material, their downside is that they don't break down natural DMT aggregates and can even increase the degree of polymerization.
  
After neutralizing, over acidifying is usually necessary to induce crystalization. '''This is a simple but very important lab observation''', compatible with Le Chatelier's principle. There is room for excess citric acid in solution since 50mg can dissolve per gram of ethyl acetate (50mg/g). The vast majority of excess acid is poured off after salting, and remaining traces are removed when washing the crystals. No new or additional crashes are observed over acidifying up to 20mg/g. The TEK recommends using 5mg/g since this was found to be more than enough to reliably crash mescaline in most situations experimentally.
 
  
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Fortunately, DMT aggregates can break down in acidic conditions. Therefore, to simultaneously break down DMT aggregates and plant material, a long acidic pressure cooking step is used (described before by for example Northener). Vitamin C is used to complete de-aggregation due to its good experimental performance and some literature references referring to it's ability to disrupt pi-pi bonds<ref>Uric acid de-aggregation by vitamin C[https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2021/cp/d1cp01504d/unauth]</ref>, but other acids could also work. Subsequently, relatively gentle ionic strength (no added salt), gentle alkaline pH (no excess lye beyond emulsion breakdown), and low DMT concentration (<0.5%) conditions are used to minimize any DMT re-polymerization. Naphtha is introduced before basing to minimize the time bulk DMT spends in alkaline water.
  
Other solid organic acids could work. Fumaric, Malic, Tartaric, Ascorbic, Succinic, etc can be tested. Sulfuric acid  HCl could be investigated (and crystals have been observed with sulfuric), but may interact with ethyl acetate and break it down, an issue not expected for the milder organic acids.
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== Vitamin C 🍊==
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Experimentally, Vitamin C produced better results compared to acetic and citric acids. Vitamin C is biologically active as a mild antioxidant and reducing agent and can pass through cell membranes.
  
  
It is possible that some of the assumptions and conclusions in these lab notes are incorrect or incomplete. The process was tested in several ways, but the search was not exhaustive<ref>Ethyl acetate approach[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=96262]</ref>. There could be ways to improve this process.
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Vitamin C begins to degrade at 158F. The activity of vitamin C decreases with temperature, so it is added when the extract is still hot yet below this degradation temperature.
  
== References ==
 
<references/>
 
  
== Appendix: Shroombee's Notes ==
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A possible specific mechanism of action is that as a strong electron donor,  vitamin C disrupts parallel displaced aromatic ring pi-bond stacking conformations<ref>Pi-bond aromatic stacking[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi-Stacking_(chemistry)]</ref><ref>Tryptophan parallel displaced stacking[https://www.jbc.org/article/S0021-9258(18)80815-8/fulltext]</ref>.
  
=== Experiment #2 ===
 
  
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Other acids may also work, and the kitchen alchemist is encouraged to report on any new experimental results (both positive and negative).
  
'''March 12, 2021'''
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== Cloudiness 🌫️==
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DMT monomer does not readily form clouds in naphtha compared to other extractions that do not minimize polymer. In this TEK clouds form later in the freezer or evaporation process and are not as opaque. Late cloud formation is a good sign and not a cause for concern. Monomer crystals take longer to grow in the freezer, so give them extra time.
  
'''8:45 am''' Weighed out 100 grams cactus chips (will use 50 grams for this experiment and the other 50 grams in a followup experiment).
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= References 🗝️=
 
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<references/>
'''8:48 am''' Ground cactus chips to very fine powder in Vitamix for 2 minutes, eventually hitting highest speed.
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'''8:50 am''' Weighed out 12.5 grams lime, 153.1 grams purified water, 50.5 grams finely ground cactus powder.
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'''8:58 am''' Mixed water and lime together in a stainless steel mixing bowl to make a milky water.  Gradually added cactus powder, incorporating powder into milky water.  Cactus gets to a fluffy texture and then transitions to being a little more clumpy.  Finished mixing at 9:05 am.
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'''9:11 am''' Added 99.8 grams ethyl acetate to the cactus for pull #1.  Mixed gently for 30 seconds.
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'''In retrospect, do not mix at all.  Just push the cactus around a little so the ethyl acetate can run through the cactus.'''  Solvent quickly turns green.
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'''9:23 am''' After letting the cactus and ethyl acetate sit for 10 minutes, decanted the ethyl acetate into a beaker with a metal coffee filter sitting inside the top of the beaker (works well).  Beaker plus filter beforehand was 342.3 grams.  After decanting solvent into it, 372.8 grams.
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'''Solvent recovery for pull #1 = 30.5 grams (out of 99.8 grams added).'''  For next experiment, see if not mixing at all will reduce the amount of solvent that the cactus absorbs.  A drop of solvent on pH paper turns the paper dark green (not blackish green though).
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'''9:28 am''' Added 110.1 grams fresh ethyl acetate to cactus for pull #2.  Very gently pushing the cactus for about 10 seconds, just to get the solvent to run through the cactus.  The ethyl acetate quickly turns green.
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'''9:31 am''' Moved pull #1 to a mason jar.  Mason jar beforehand is 426.8 grams.  After is 456.6 grams.  29.8 grams solvent moved from beaker to mason jar.
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'''9:38 am''' After 10 minutes sitting with the cactus, decanted pull #2 into the beaker.  Beaker is 342.3 grams before, 447.9 grams after.
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'''Solvent recovery for pull #2 = 105.6 grams (out of 110.1 grams added).'''  pH paper is medium dark green.
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'''9:45 am''' Added 103.3 grams fresh ethyl acetate to the cactus for pull #3.  Almost no manipulation of the cactus at this point.  Solvent quickly gets green color.
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'''9:46 am''' Moved pull #2 to the mason jar (combining with pull #1).  Mason jar beforehand is 456.4 grams.  After is 560.4 grams.  104.0 grams solvent moved from beaker to mason jar.  Interesting at 9:31 am the mason jar weighed 456.6 grams.  15 minutes later it weighs 456.4 grams.  Is this evaporation of ethyl acetate or error in the scale?  Scale supposed to be accurate to 0.1 grams.
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'''9:55 am''' After 10 minutes sitting with the cactus, decanted pull #3 into the beaker.  Beaker is 342.5 grams before, 450.3 grams after.
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'''Solvent recovery for pull #3 = 107.8 grams (out of 103.3 grams added).'''  We got back the amount we added for pull #3, plus a few more grams.  The paste is starting to stick to itself, making it easy to decant and pour solvent out of the mixing bowl by holding the paste back with a strainer/skimmer ladle.  pH paper is light green.
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'''10:00 am''' Added 103.9 grams fresh ethyl acetate to the cactus for pull #4.  As with pull #3, almost no manipulation of the cactus.  Just pushing the cactus under the solvent.  Solvent picks up green color.
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'''10:08 am''' Moved pull #3 to the mason jar (combining with pull #1 and pull #2).  Mason jar beforehand is 560.2.  After is 667.0 grams.  106.8 grams solvent moved from beaker to mason jar.  As before, mason jar seems to have lost 0.2 grams of solvent.  The solvent in the mason jar is a beautiful emerald green.
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'''10:10 am''' After 10 minutes sitting with the cactus, decanted pull #4 into the beaker.  Beaker is 342.7 grams before, 444.7 grams after.
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'''Solvent recovery for pull #4 = 102.0 grams (out of 103.9 grams added).'''  pH paper is faint green.  After drying, the paper barely has any greenish tint.
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'''10:16 am''' Added 104.0 grams fresh ethyl acetate to the cactus for pull #5.  Almost no manipulation of the cactus.  Solvent picks up a light green tint.
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'''10:20 am''' Moved pull #4 to the mason jar (combining with pull #1-3).  Mason jar beforehand is 666.9 grams.  After is 767.8 grams.  100.9 grams solvent moved from beaker to mason jar.  Mason jar lost 0.1 grams solvent since 10:08 am.
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'''10:26 am''' After 10 minutes sitting with the cactus, decanted pull #5 into the beaker.  Beaker is 342.5 grams before, 446.0 grams after.
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'''Solvent recovery for pull #5 = 103.5 grams (out of 104.0 grams added).'''  pH paper has no materially significant color change.  After drying, the paper shows no color change.  This pull is NOT being combined with pulls #1-4 since it does not appear to have any freebase mescaline.  Will consider what technique to use to see if there is any mescaline to be obtained from this pull.
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'''Total solvent added = 99.8 + 110.1 + 103.3 + 103.9 + 104.0 = 521.1 grams.  Total solvent recovered = 30.5 + 105.6 + 107.8 + 102.0 + 103.5 = 449.4 grams.  Lost 71.7 grams solvent to the cactus (almost all in pull #1).'''
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'''10:46 am''' Washed and dried the metal coffee filter.  Then added a paper filter into the metal filter.  Ran pulls #1-4 through the metal+paper filter and into a new mason jar.  Ran pull #5 through the metal+paper filter and into a separate mason jar.  The purpose of filtering again is that I noticed a few bits of cactus material got into the combined decanted solvent.  I don't know how that occurred since the metal filter is a fine mesh filter.  In any case, now we have filtered solvent.
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'''10:52 am''' Added 254 grams of citric acid to the combined pulls mason jar.  Clouds form in the solvent.  Stirred gently with a spoon.  pH paper comes out yellow.
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'''10:56 am''' Put a stainless steel lid with silicone liner on the mason jar.  Put mason jar into the frig to wait for crystals.
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'''1:45 pm''' Mason jar is in the frig.  Solvent is opaque.  No crystals yet.
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''Added by Loveall: This looks promising. If xtals do not form, I would try adding citric acid until pH paper has some red coloring (maybe another 250mg will do). If xtals still don't form, I would add water at ~0.5% increments (~2.2g), shaking and waiting to see if xtals form. I added a picture of how the pH paper looks from an extract that crystalized well in the main TEK.''
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=== Experiment #1 ===
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'''March 9, 2021'''
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'''6:42 pm'''
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100 grams Peruvian Torch chips
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298 grams purified water
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Blended cactus chips in the Vitamix dry container so it becomes a fine powder.
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'''6:58 pm'''
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Mixed cactus powder and water in a plastic mixing bowl rather than a mason jar because it seems easier.  Product is a fluffy texture, olive green color.  There is no excess water.
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The bowl plus cactus plus silicone mixing spoon weighs 826.5 grams.  Microwave on high for 30 seconds, mix, then weigh.  This is pretty easy.  I wouldn't want to do this in a mason jar.  The cactus does not bubble and there is no issue at 30 seconds with anything bubbling over.  Weight after each 30 second cycle:
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825.6 grams
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823.9 grams
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820.2 grams
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816.0 grams
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808.7 grams
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800.7 grams
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791.3 grams
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783.2 grams
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775.8 grams
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765.8 grams
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After a couple of the microwaving cycles, the cactus lost its fluffiness and became like light bread dough, not sticking much to the bowl.
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'''7:25 pm''' Begin slowly mixing in 25 grams pickling lime.  Started with the plastic bowl but switched to a ceramic bowl after a minute, not knowing how the plastic would react to the base.  Bowl appears fine after washing it out.
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'''7:39 pm''' I'm using a fork to try to get the lime mixed evenly.  I figure my Kitchenaid stand mixer will be easier so I break that out.
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'''7:45 pm''' Letting the Kitchenaid stir the cactus for me.  Much easier!
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'''7:53 pm''' Added 25 grams calcium chloride.  Before adding, the cactus paste was fluffy and stuck to the sides of the stainless steel bowl.  After adding the calcium chloride, the cactus became like clumpy sand and hardly stuck to the sides of the bowl.
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'''8:05 pm''' Transferred cactus to a wide mouth quart mason jar and added 220 ml of ethyl acetate (weighing 199.9 grams).  The ethyl acetate came up to approximately 540 ml on the side of the mason jar.  After shaking, the cactus looked like fluffy beach sand.
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'''8:28 pm''' Shake for a minute.
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'''9:00 pm''' Shake for a minute.
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'''9:22 pm''' No shaking, I notice the ethyl acetate is light green.
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'''10:30 pm''' Shake for a minute.  The cactus is starting to get a little stickier, leaving streaks on the glass.
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'''11:00 pm''' Ethyl acetate comes up to exactly 500 ml on the side of the mason jar.  Versus ~540 ml at 8:05 pm when the ethyl acetate was first added.  '''What accounts for this 40 ml difference?'''
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'''12:00 am''' Shake for a minute.
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'''1:06 am''' Weighed mason jar with cactus: 1001.4 grams.
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'''March 10, 2021'''
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'''7:57 am''' Weighed mason jar with cactus: 1001.1 grams.
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Ready to decant ethyl acetate.  Large pyrex beaker with metal coffee filter weighs 342.3 grams.  Ethyl acetate is a medium, emerald green.  Definitely not light green and not yellow.
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Using a small ladle to decant, which gets most of the ethyl acetate with no plant matter.  Beaker weighs 427.2 grams meaning we recovered 84.9 grams of ethyl acetate.  Not too good.
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I transferred the cactus to a french press to see if I could recover more ethyl acetate.  The sticky paste does not compress and I recovered an additional ~6 grams ethyl acetate.  '''French press is obviously not worth the effort!'''
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'''8:21 am''' Done with decanting, transferring, french pressing, weighing, et cetera.  Total recovery for this pull is 90.6 grams ethyl acetate.
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'''8:23 am''' Added 90.7 grams of fresh ethyl acetate to the mason jar.  Stirred ethyl acetate into the sticky cactus, did not shake.  Ethyl acetate is already changing to green color.
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'''8:33 am''' Photo of pH paper.  Paper is dark green.  pH 10 or 11?  Also tested using the 4 color pH strips.  More difficult to judge the pH with these. 
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'''8:34 am''' Photo of recovered ethyl acetate showing it is an emerald green color.
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'''8:45 am''' Poured 10 ml of ethyl acetate into a small beaker.  Added 13 mg of citric acid.  Lower half of the beaker turned milky, cloudy.  Checked pH and it's basically the same as the rest of the solvent.  So the small amount of citric acid didn't change the pH much.  I used a disposable pipette and pulled from the top of the solvent, so perhaps the top layer didn't have a chance to react yet.
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'''8:49 am''' Photo showing cloudy 10 ml in small beaker.
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'''8:50 am''' Poured the 10 ml and the rest of the solvent into a mini Pyrex baking dish, using the larger volume of solvent to rinse out of the small beaker.  I probably should have left the solvent in a mason jar or beaker rather than adding to the baking dish.  Added 95 mg of citric acid.  Stirred a little because I wanted to get a more accurate pH.  pH was about 7.  Added an additional 61 mg citric acid.  pH went to about 6.  Total citric acid added to the 90.6 grams ethyl acetate is 169 mg.  Even after rinsing with the main solvent, the bottom of the small beaker has some spots that look like something crystalizing.  I don't know if it's just sticky citric acid or ???
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'''9:07 am''' Photo of 3 pH test strips.
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'''3:42 pm''' Moving the dish to the freezer.  Solvent is clear (and has been clear for at least a few hours).  Initially I thought there were droplets on the bottom of the dish (around 11:00 am).  Then tried to scrape at them with a knife and not seeing any movement, I figured they were a reflection from the surface because I noticed some tiny droplets on the surface if I caught the light at the right angle.  Then as I tipped the dish at 3:42pm to move it into the freezer, I now see the droplets really are at the bottom of the dish.  Sort of an oily substance.  There are no crystals.
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'''8:00 pm''' Retrieving pull #2.  Beaker plus metal coffee filter weigh 342.3 grams.  Weighs 407.5 grams after decanting.  Recovered 65.2 grams.  Looks like the cactus sucked up more solvent even though I didn't shake.  pH is basic, although the pH paper is not as dark green as pull #1.
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'''8:09 pm''' Removed a few tablespoons of sticky slimy cactus and put it into a separate bowl. Mixed in 5.4 grams of calcium chloride (which is a lot relative to the amount of cactus).  Even waiting more than 30 minutes, no additional solvent is released.  The cactus is drier though, more clumpy, and lost some gooey sliminess.
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'''8:27 pm''' Since only 65.2 grams of solvent was retrieved, I decided adding this amount of fresh solvent for pull #3 would be too inefficient.  I added 197.6 grams fresh ethyl acetate and stirred for 1-2 minutes.  Solvent turned a light green fairly quickly.
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'''8:38 pm''' Added 49 mg citric acid to the recovered solvent.  Bottom of jar got milky.  Tested pH with 3 strips.  (1) Took a solvent sample towards the bottom of the jar at the clouds: pH about 5.  (2) Solvent sample at the surface: pH about 7.  (3) Swirled the jar around then took a solvent sample.  pH about 6.
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Introduction 🙏

Pure DMT free base can form white crystals, yellow powder, and orange to red wax/goo. This wide range of appearance could be due to self aggregation because of indole ring pi bond stacking [1] (see Fig. 1).


This technique (TEK) focuses on maximizing white crystalline DMT by minimizing self aggregation during extraction.


Thanks to benzyme for showing MS evidence of DMT weakly bonding to itself, and to Jees, downwardsfromzero, IridiumAndLace, and Loveall for their contributions to this process in the forum[2].


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Fig. 1: Mass spectrum of DMT goo (from benzyme). Peaks in multiples of 188m/z unmask the nature of DMT goo as DMT-DMT bonding aggregation (possibly through indole ring pi stacking).

Safety ⛑️

Review NaOH[3] and naphtha [4] safety information. Verify solvent MSDS purity, plastic compatibility, and clean evaporation.


Never have solvents near an open flame.


Following this advice does not guarantee safety. It is up to each adult individual to make their own decision.

Materials🛒

Consumables👩‍🌾

  • 800ml water
  • 100g of mimosa hostilis root bark
  • 10g ascorbic acid (Vitamin C)
  • 50g KCl
  • 250ml of light naphtha/hydrocarbons†
  • 25g of NaOH


It is very important to use a source of light hydrocarbons (~8 carbon chains or lower). The smaller organic molecules used in lighter fluids seem to reduce DMT aggregation. Naptha used in paint thinning applications tends to be too heavy (10+ carbon chains). Ronsonol is a good lighter fluid choice available over the counter. Avoid products with anti rust or dyes (e.g. Coleman camping fuel).

Equipment🏺

  • Stovetop
  • Pot with lid
  • Quart jars
  • Scale
  • Pipette
  • Shallow pyrex baking dish
  • Freezer
  • Fan
  • Scraping tool

Process Overview 👀

  • Cell lysing❄️: In a small pot, freeze/thaw powdered bark and water three times
  • De-polymerize💔: Add citric acid together with KCl and brew at 150F for an hour and cool
  • Pull👩‍🔬: Add light hydrocarbon solvent, basify with NaOH, shake and pull warm solvent at ~120F. Repeat 5x
  • Collect✨: Freeze precipate solvent, decant, dry, and scrape

Evaporation is skipped and max yield is achieved on reused solvent.

Detailed Process 📜

Cell Lysing ❄️

Freeze/thaw bark mixed with 800ml of water in a pot with a lid. Repeat twice for a total of 3 times. Process can be sped up defrosting over low heat.

De-polymerization💔

Stir in ascorbic acid and KCl. Heat gently to 150F. Cover pot with lid and keep it at this temperature (e.g. using very low heat) for one hour.


Ascorbic acid and plant enzymes degrade at high temperatures, especially above 150F-175F. K+ ions are good at disturbing DMT pi bond aggregation in water and superior to Na+ ions.

Pull 👩‍🔬

Transfer treated liquid and bark to a mason quart jar (or another suitable container). Add water if needed so quart jar is close to being full. Shake in ~65ml of light naphtha. Add lye and shake vigorously for a few minutes. Solution will warm up slightly as lye dissolves and will quickly go from red, to milky, to dark red.


Rest jar in a warm water bath until naphtha layer separates (~10 minutes, see Fig. 3). If separation is not complete after 30 minutes, mix in another 5g of lye and try again.


Move naphtha into a pint jar with a pipette It is ok if a few drops of watery extract or bark particles come through (they will be decanted in the next section).


Add another ~65ml of naphtha to the quart jar. Shake for a few minutes, rest in a warm water bath until layers separate, and pipette naphtha into the pint jar. Perform this step two more times (total of 4 pulls, including the first one).


Ideally, all four pulls are done within an hour while the quart jar is slightly warm from the lye dissolving in water.


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Fig. 3: Settled naphtha pull ready to be pipetted.

Crystalize ✨

Carefully decant naphtha pulls to a new fresh pint jar. Do not allow any watery extract or particles to come through.


Place naphtha in freezer to precipitate crystals. Rest in freezer until cloudiness clears (at least 24 hours).


Decant naphtha off crystals, and immediately dry with the help of a fan. Once dry, dissolve xtals in a minimal amount of boiling fresh naphtha (~25ml) for 15 minutes, pout into a shallow baking dish, evaporate slowly (no fan), and scrape. This is the final product. Yields are typically 1 to 3%.


If new naphtha was used, one option is to evaporate the solvent until slightly cloudy with the help of a fan in a well ventilated area. A better option is to skip the solvent evaporation. Yield will be lower by ~500mg if using new naphtha, but it will be available for reuse as a one-time "investment" for the next extraction. Subsequently, used naphtha does not need to be evaporated before freezing to get the full yield since it already comes preloaded with a DMT concentration that is saturated at the freezer's temperature.

Reclaim Solvent 💚

Reusing solvents is encouraged[5] at the DMT nexus.


Simply reuse freeze precipitated naphtha as-is. Re-used naphtha is saturated with DMT at freezer the temperature (~2mg/ml) and pre-freezer evaporation is not needed. Easy 😊

Frequently Asked Questions ❓

Q: That's a lot of hypothesis you got down in the appendix. Have any experimental evidence consistent with them?

A: Yes. Benzyme's MS, together with polymerization and de-polymerization experiments. As far as we know experiments are consistent with the hypotheses listed. The community is welcome to update this Wiki entry as more evidence arises, especially if any of the hypotheses are disproved (thank you).


Q: What's so special about Vitamin C?

A: See the development notes in appendix below.


Q: Why are there only 3 pulls without a warm water bath or salting out ionic strength? Usually ~5 warm (40-50C) + high ionic strength pulls (~6% NaCl) are needed.

A: DMT monomer is highly soluble in naphtha and has an excellent partition coefficient. By converting natural DMT to this form, and keeping alkaline conditions gentle to avoid polymerization, the pulls are simpler and very efficient. No added heat or ionic strength is necessary.


Q: What is the difference between DMT polymers, oligomers, aggregates, and aromatic pi-pi stacking?

A: None, all names are equivalent and refer to the same thing: weakly bonded groups of DMT molecules that form goo instead of crystals.

Appendix: Development Notes 🔬

Hypotheses 🤔

This TEK hypothesizes that:


  • Not all of the DMT is in the plant in monomer form, some of it is in macro-molecule form (also called polymer, oligomer, or goo)
  • In addition to natural DMT polymer, even more polymer can form during the basing step under high alkaline, high ionic strength, and high DMT concentration conditions
  • Once natural DMT polymer is broken down, gentle alkaline conditions keep it from forming again
  • Goo can also form in the solvent. Using lighter naphtha (shorter carbon chains) minimizes DMT goo formation.
  • DMT monomer properties compared to DMT polymer:
    • Easier to dissolve in naphtha (better partition coefficient)
    • Barely clouds during naphtha evaporation
    • Slowly crashes during freeze precipitation as white crystals. In contrast, DMT polymer precipitates sooner as yellow/orange/red semisolid goo
    • Easier to handle and dose precisely
    • Low and consistent vaporization temperature, ideal for newer electronic vaporization devices with precisely tuned temperature settings
    • Visibly unique upon crystalization, eliminating questions around plant oil contaminants
    • May be easier to complex with HPBCD for sublingual administration
    • It is unknown if it has better bioavailability for oral or rectal administration. In principle, stomach acid should be able to break down DMT polymer, so perhaps there is no difference for oral administration
    • There is no expected benefit for torch vaporization by an experienced user since the strong heat produced manually can easily vaporize everything. However, the process window between vaporizing and burning the DMT is larger for the monomer which may benefit the inexperienced user

Strategy ♟️

The strategy of this minimum polymer TEK is to break down both natural DMT aggregates during the acid step and minimize DMT aggregation during the basing and pulling steps.


Aggressive alkaline concentration conditions are avoided. While these type of processes can break down plant material, their downside is that they don't break down natural DMT aggregates and can even increase the degree of polymerization.


Fortunately, DMT aggregates can break down in acidic conditions. Therefore, to simultaneously break down DMT aggregates and plant material, a long acidic pressure cooking step is used (described before by for example Northener). Vitamin C is used to complete de-aggregation due to its good experimental performance and some literature references referring to it's ability to disrupt pi-pi bonds[6], but other acids could also work. Subsequently, relatively gentle ionic strength (no added salt), gentle alkaline pH (no excess lye beyond emulsion breakdown), and low DMT concentration (<0.5%) conditions are used to minimize any DMT re-polymerization. Naphtha is introduced before basing to minimize the time bulk DMT spends in alkaline water.

Vitamin C 🍊

Experimentally, Vitamin C produced better results compared to acetic and citric acids. Vitamin C is biologically active as a mild antioxidant and reducing agent and can pass through cell membranes.


Vitamin C begins to degrade at 158F. The activity of vitamin C decreases with temperature, so it is added when the extract is still hot yet below this degradation temperature.


A possible specific mechanism of action is that as a strong electron donor, vitamin C disrupts parallel displaced aromatic ring pi-bond stacking conformations[7][8].


Other acids may also work, and the kitchen alchemist is encouraged to report on any new experimental results (both positive and negative).

Cloudiness 🌫️

DMT monomer does not readily form clouds in naphtha compared to other extractions that do not minimize polymer. In this TEK clouds form later in the freezer or evaporation process and are not as opaque. Late cloud formation is a good sign and not a cause for concern. Monomer crystals take longer to grow in the freezer, so give them extra time.

References 🗝️

  1. Polymer MS evidence[1]
  2. Minimum Polymer[2]
  3. NaOH safety[3]
  4. Naphtha safety[4]
  5. On reusing non polar solvent[5]
  6. Uric acid de-aggregation by vitamin C[6]
  7. Pi-bond aromatic stacking[7]
  8. Tryptophan parallel displaced stacking[8]