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= Introduction ๐Ÿ™=
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=Introduction ๐Ÿ™=
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'''Min Poly''' stands for '''Minimun Polymer'''.
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Pure DMT free base can form white crystals, yellow powder, and orange to red wax/goo. This wide range of appearance could be due to self aggregation because of indole ring pi bond stacking <ref>Polymer MS evidence[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=88183]</ref> (see Fig. 1).
  
  
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In this technique (TEK), DMT polymers (also called DMT aggregates or DMT oligomers) are minimized. First, any natural DMT aggregates are broken down in an acidic pressure cooking process using vitamin C. Secondly, during the basing step, ionic strength, alkalinity, and DMT concentration are kept low to avoid DMT (re)polymerization.
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This technique (TEK) focuses on maximizing white crystalline DMT by minimizing self aggregation during extraction.
  
  
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Thanks to Dragonrider for sharing his excellent pressure cooking experimental result, to Benzyme for showing MS evidence of DMT aggregates, and to Jees, Downwardsfromzero  and Loveall for their contributions to this process.
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Thanks to benzyme for showing MS evidence of DMT weakly bonding to itself, and to Jees, downwardsfromzero, IridiumAndLace, and Loveall for their contributions to this process in the forum<ref>Minimum Polymer[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=97103]</ref>.
  
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= Safety โ›‘๏ธ=
 
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Review ethyl acetate<ref>Ethyl acetate safety[https://www.msdsonline.com/2015/04/10/ethyl-acetate-a-sweet-smelling-safety-hazard/#:~:text=Ethyl%20acetate%20is%20highly%20flammable,with%20the%20eyes%20or%20skin.]</ref> and citric acid<ref>Citric Acid Safety[https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Citric_Acid_Safety#Process_.F0.9F.A5.9E]</ref> safety information. Verify solvent MSDS, plastic compatibility, and clean evaporation.
 
  
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[[File:Dmt copy 800x364.png| center]]
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<center>''Fig. 1: Mass spectrum of DMT goo (from benzyme). Peaks in multiples of 188m/z unmask the nature of DMT goo as DMT-DMT bonding aggregation (possibly through indole ring pi stacking).</center>
  
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Never have solvents near an open flame.
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= Safety โ›‘๏ธ=
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Review NaOH<ref>NaOH safety[https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/sodium-hydroxide/default.html]</ref> and naphtha <ref>Naphtha safety[https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npg/npgd0664.html]</ref> safety information. Verify solvent MSDS purity, plastic compatibility, and clean evaporation.
  
  
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This TEK is food safe if food grade materials are used.
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Never have solvents near an open flame.
  
  
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=Materials๐Ÿ›’=
 
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==Consumables๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐ŸŒพ==
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* 800ml water
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* 100g of mimosa hostilis root bark
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* 10g ascorbic acid (Vitamin C)
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* 50g KCl
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* 250ml of '''light''' naphtha/hydrocarbonsโ€ 
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* 25g of NaOH
  
  
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==Consumables๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐ŸŒพ==
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โ€ ''It is very important to use a source of light hydrocarbons (~8 carbon chains or lower). The smaller organic molecules used in lighter fluids seem to reduce DMT aggregation. Naptha used in paint thinning applications tends to be too heavy (10+ carbon chains). Ronsonol is a good lighter fluid choice available over the counter. Avoid products with anti rust or dyes (e.g. Coleman camping fuel).''
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*200g water
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*20g washing soda
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*~3/4 qt ethyl acetate (also sold as "MEK substitute")
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*150ml of vinegar
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*30g of NaCl
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*Additional washing soda and pH paper (to wash solvent for reuse)
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==Equipment๐Ÿบ==
 
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* Stovetop
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*French press for mixing and pulling rue with ethyl acetate (a quart jar also works but is not as easy as the French press)
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* Pot with lid
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*Microwave
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* Quart jars
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* Scale
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* Pipette
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* Shallow pyrex baking dish
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* Freezer
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* Fan
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[[File:IMG 20210608 223040865 copy 800x600.jpg|center]]
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<center>''Fig. 1: Over the counter materials.</center>
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= Process Overview ๐Ÿ‘€ =
 
= Process Overview ๐Ÿ‘€ =
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*Cell lysingโ„๏ธ: In a small pot, freeze/thaw powdered bark and water three times
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*De-polymerize๐Ÿ’”: Add citric acid together with KCl and brew at 150F for an hour and cool
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*Pull๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐Ÿ”ฌ: Add light hydrocarbon solvent, basify with NaOH, shake and pull warm solvent at ~120F. Repeat 5x
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*Collectโœจ: Freeze precipate solvent<sup>โ€ </sup>, decant, dry, and scrape
  
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*Make wet alkaline microwaved rue paste
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''<sup>โ€ </sup>Evaporation is skipped and max yield is achieved on reused solvent.
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*Pull with ethyl acetate
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*Rest in fridge overnight for harmala HCl xtals to form
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*Collect xtals, wash, and squeeze dry
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= Detailed Process ๐Ÿ“œ=
 
= Detailed Process ๐Ÿ“œ=
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== Cell Lysing โ„๏ธ==
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Freeze/thaw bark mixed with 800ml of water in a pot with a lid. Repeat twice for a total of 3 times. Process can be sped up defrosting over low heat.
  
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==De-polymerization๐Ÿ’”==
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Stir in ascorbic acid and KCl. Heat gently to 150F. Cover pot with lid and keep it at this temperature (e.g. using very low heat) for one hour.
  
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== Pull ๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐Ÿ”ฌ==
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<center>''Fig. 2: Cactus lime paste. Appearance can vary.</center>
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Transfer treated liquid and bark to a mason quart jar (or another suitable container). Add water if needed so quart jar is close to being full. Shake in ~65ml of light naphtha. Add lye and shake vigorously for a few minutes. Solution will warm up slightly as lye dissolves and will quickly go from red, to milky, to dark red.
  
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== Extract ๐Ÿ‘จ๐Ÿพโ€๐Ÿ”ฌ==
 
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Cover paste with two fingers works of ethyl acetate (~100g) and stir for a few seconds. Loosely cover and heat in a hot water bath brining ethyl acetate to a boil (do not seal container to avoid pressure buildup). Extract with boiling EA for least 10 minutes, stirring every couple minutes or so (do not have any open flame sources and work in a well ventilated area). Decant into quart jar. Do not squeeze with the French press, its purpose is to only hold back the paste from falling into the filter. Squeezing can push unwanted plant material or water into the extract. Repeat adding ethyl acetate, heating, stirring, and decanting until quart jar is ~3/4 full. This will be about 5 total pulls.
 
  
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Rest the combined extract for at least an hour and then inspect for droplets or particles. If present, allow extract to rest until no more debris form and remove them with a filter.
 
  
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Move naphtha into a pint jar with a pipette It is ok if a few drops of watery extract or bark particles come through (they will be decanted in the next section).
  
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'''Room temperature extract option:''' With this option the paste is extracted at room temperature over 24 hours and shaken throughout the day. This extraction is more passive and slower, but yields are similar[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1108612#post1108612].
 
  
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Add another ~65ml of naphtha to the quart jar. Shake for a few minutes, rest in a warm water bath until layers separate, and pipette naphtha into the pint jar. Perform this step two more times (total of 4 pulls, including the first one).
  
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<center>''Fig. 3: Ethyl acetate extract. Color may vary, but extract must be clear and free of debris.</center>
 
  
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<center>''Fig. 3: Settled naphtha pull ready to be pipetted.</center>
  
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dish, and scraping up dry crystals. Combine with the collected crystals from the filter to obtain the final product (Fig. 5).  
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Decant naphtha off crystals, and immediately dry with the help of a fan. Once dry, dissolve xtals in a minimal amount of boiling fresh naphtha (~25ml) for 15 minutes, pout into a shallow baking dish, evaporate slowly (no fan), and scrape. This is the final product. Yields are typically 1 to 3%.
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''<sup>โ€ </sup>If new naphtha was used, one option is to evaporate the solvent until slightly cloudy with the help of a fan in a well ventilated area. A better option is to skip the solvent evaporation. Yield will be lower by ~500mg if using new naphtha, but it will be available for reuse as a one-time "investment" for the next extraction. Subsequently, used naphtha does not need to be evaporated before freezing to get the full yield since it already comes preloaded with a DMT concentration that is saturated at the freezer's temperature.''
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[[File: Cactus-extract copy 800x600_1.jpg|center]]''<center>Fig. 6: Mass spectrometry result. Peak near 210.5 is mescaline. Lower mass peaks are mescaline with cleaved functional groups. The peak at 239.5 is not attributed to mescaline. </center>
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== Reclaim Solvent ๐Ÿ’š==
 
== Reclaim Solvent ๐Ÿ’š==
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Wash spent extract with sodium carbonate saturated water (35% by weight). About 1/5 of the solvent volume as saturated water is enough. Shake vigorously (emulsions do not form). CO2 bubbles may be visible during citric acid neutralization. Keep an eye on any bubbles and release any pressure buildup regularly. Neutralization can be optionally verified with pH paper. Filter any excess sodium carbonate/citrate and remove the water layer. Tan solvent can be reused on another microwaved paste.
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= Frequently Asked Questions โ“ =
 
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'''Q: Why does the TEK have so many options. I feel like I'm choosing my own adventure!'''
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'''Q: That's a lot of hypothesis you got down in the appendix. Have any experimental evidence consistent with them?'''
  
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A: The options exist to help with crystallization for variable starting plant material. The easiest material to crystalize experimentally seems to be aged pachanoi outer skin powder (aged long enough to change color from green to tan). A more difficult material to crystalize is whole bridgessi powder recently dried and ground. For outer skin pachanoi the simpler path has worked for many without adding any options: no microwave, room temp extraction, no solvent dry with washing soda, and citric acid diffusion. For whole cactus more work may be needed to keep plant material interfering with crystallization by adding all options: microwave paste, cold extraction, citric acid added with continuous magnetic stirrer. Finally, to grow large crystals good options are to microwave the paste and use cold pulls (while allowing citric acid to diffuse slowly). Current general guidelines (as of summer 2021):
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A: Yes. Benzyme's MS, together with polymerization and de-polymerization experiments. As far as we know experiments are consistent with the hypotheses listed. The community is welcome to update this Wiki entry as more evidence arises, especially if any of the hypotheses are disproved (thank you).
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A: No.  Shroombee has tested 15 minute, 24 hour, and 72 hour basing times and there was no difference in yield.  Other process variables were 8 minutes incorporating milky water with cactus, 6x3 minute pulls, and 15 mg/gram citric acid added with the fast crystallization method.  Loveall has confirmed in his experiments that 10 minute and 24 hour basing times produce the same yield.  So we assume that any basing time from 10 minutes through 72 hours will produce the same yield.  See a detailed explanation in this post.<ref>Basing time tests results[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109045#post1109045]</ref>
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'''Q: Why are there only 3 pulls without a warm water bath or salting out ionic strength? Usually ~5 warm (40-50C) + high ionic strength pulls (~6% NaCl) are needed.'''
  
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A: DMT monomer is highly soluble in naphtha and has an excellent partition coefficient. By converting natural DMT to this form, and keeping alkaline conditions gentle to avoid polymerization, the pulls are simpler and very efficient. No added heat or ionic strength is necessary.
  
  
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== Hypotheses ๐Ÿค”==
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*Not all of the DMT is in the plant in monomer form, some of it is in macro-molecule form (also called polymer, oligomer, or goo)
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A: We think it depends on what crashes first as the acid and base react. Work is ongoing to experimentally verify what that is. In practice this affects yield and dosage numbers as the (di) hydrogen salts are less potent by weight. Update: Early data indicates the dihydrogen salt is forming in this TEK (see below).
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== Vitamin C ๐ŸŠ==
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Fortunately, DMT aggregates can break down in acidic conditions. Therefore, to simultaneously break down DMT aggregates and plant material, a long acidic pressure cooking step is used (described before by for example Dragonrider). Vitamin C is chosen as the source of acid due to its good experimental performance, but other acids could also work. Subsequently, relatively gentle ionic strength (no added salt), alkaline pH (no excess lye beyond emulsion breakdown), and low DMT concentration (<0.5%) conditions are used to minimize any DMT re-aggregation. Naphtha is also present during the basing step to minimize the time DMT spends in the base when it is at its highest initial concentration.
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Other acids may also work, and the kitchen alchemist is encouraged to report on any new experimental results (both positive and negatives).
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Other acids may also work, and the kitchen alchemist is encouraged to report on any new experimental results (both positive and negative).
  
 
== Cloudiness ๐ŸŒซ๏ธ==
 
== Cloudiness ๐ŸŒซ๏ธ==
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DMT monomer does not readily form clouds in naphtha. Compared to other extractions that do not minimize polymer, clouds for later in the evaporation process and are not as opaque. This is a good sign and not a cause for concern. It is OK to freeze precipate before clouds are observed after reducing the solvent volume.
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DMT monomer does not readily form clouds in naphtha compared to other extractions that do not minimize polymer. In this TEK clouds form later in the freezer or evaporation process and are not as opaque. Late cloud formation is a good sign and not a cause for concern. Monomer crystals take longer to grow in the freezer, so give them extra time.
  
 
= References ๐Ÿ—๏ธ=
 
= References ๐Ÿ—๏ธ=
 
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Latest revision as of 14:22, 11 July 2022


Introduction ๐Ÿ™

Pure DMT free base can form white crystals, yellow powder, and orange to red wax/goo. This wide range of appearance could be due to self aggregation because of indole ring pi bond stacking [1] (see Fig. 1).


This technique (TEK) focuses on maximizing white crystalline DMT by minimizing self aggregation during extraction.


Thanks to benzyme for showing MS evidence of DMT weakly bonding to itself, and to Jees, downwardsfromzero, IridiumAndLace, and Loveall for their contributions to this process in the forum[2].


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Fig. 1: Mass spectrum of DMT goo (from benzyme). Peaks in multiples of 188m/z unmask the nature of DMT goo as DMT-DMT bonding aggregation (possibly through indole ring pi stacking).

Safety โ›‘๏ธ

Review NaOH[3] and naphtha [4] safety information. Verify solvent MSDS purity, plastic compatibility, and clean evaporation.


Never have solvents near an open flame.


Following this advice does not guarantee safety. It is up to each adult individual to make their own decision.

Materials๐Ÿ›’

Consumables๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐ŸŒพ

  • 800ml water
  • 100g of mimosa hostilis root bark
  • 10g ascorbic acid (Vitamin C)
  • 50g KCl
  • 250ml of light naphtha/hydrocarbonsโ€ 
  • 25g of NaOH


โ€ It is very important to use a source of light hydrocarbons (~8 carbon chains or lower). The smaller organic molecules used in lighter fluids seem to reduce DMT aggregation. Naptha used in paint thinning applications tends to be too heavy (10+ carbon chains). Ronsonol is a good lighter fluid choice available over the counter. Avoid products with anti rust or dyes (e.g. Coleman camping fuel).

Equipment๐Ÿบ

  • Stovetop
  • Pot with lid
  • Quart jars
  • Scale
  • Pipette
  • Shallow pyrex baking dish
  • Freezer
  • Fan
  • Scraping tool

Process Overview ๐Ÿ‘€

  • Cell lysingโ„๏ธ: In a small pot, freeze/thaw powdered bark and water three times
  • De-polymerize๐Ÿ’”: Add citric acid together with KCl and brew at 150F for an hour and cool
  • Pull๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐Ÿ”ฌ: Add light hydrocarbon solvent, basify with NaOH, shake and pull warm solvent at ~120F. Repeat 5x
  • Collectโœจ: Freeze precipate solventโ€ , decant, dry, and scrape

โ€ Evaporation is skipped and max yield is achieved on reused solvent.

Detailed Process ๐Ÿ“œ

Cell Lysing โ„๏ธ

Freeze/thaw bark mixed with 800ml of water in a pot with a lid. Repeat twice for a total of 3 times. Process can be sped up defrosting over low heat.

De-polymerization๐Ÿ’”

Stir in ascorbic acid and KCl. Heat gently to 150F. Cover pot with lid and keep it at this temperature (e.g. using very low heat) for one hour.


Ascorbic acid and plant enzymes degrade at high temperatures, especially above 150F-175F. K+ ions are good at disturbing DMT pi bond aggregation in water and superior to Na+ ions.

Pull ๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐Ÿ”ฌ

Transfer treated liquid and bark to a mason quart jar (or another suitable container). Add water if needed so quart jar is close to being full. Shake in ~65ml of light naphtha. Add lye and shake vigorously for a few minutes. Solution will warm up slightly as lye dissolves and will quickly go from red, to milky, to dark red.


Rest jar in a warm water bath until naphtha layer separates (~10 minutes, see Fig. 3). If separation is not complete after 30 minutes, mix in another 5g of lye and try again.


Move naphtha into a pint jar with a pipette It is ok if a few drops of watery extract or bark particles come through (they will be decanted in the next section).


Add another ~65ml of naphtha to the quart jar. Shake for a few minutes, rest in a warm water bath until layers separate, and pipette naphtha into the pint jar. Perform this step two more times (total of 4 pulls, including the first one).


Ideally, all four pulls are done within an hour while the quart jar is slightly warm from the lye dissolving in water.


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Fig. 3: Settled naphtha pull ready to be pipetted.

Crystalize โœจ

Carefully decant naphtha pulls to a new fresh pint jar. Do not allow any watery extract or particles to come through.


Place naphtha in freezer to precipitate crystalsโ€ . Rest in freezer until cloudiness clears (at least 24 hours).


Decant naphtha off crystals, and immediately dry with the help of a fan. Once dry, dissolve xtals in a minimal amount of boiling fresh naphtha (~25ml) for 15 minutes, pout into a shallow baking dish, evaporate slowly (no fan), and scrape. This is the final product. Yields are typically 1 to 3%.


โ€ If new naphtha was used, one option is to evaporate the solvent until slightly cloudy with the help of a fan in a well ventilated area. A better option is to skip the solvent evaporation. Yield will be lower by ~500mg if using new naphtha, but it will be available for reuse as a one-time "investment" for the next extraction. Subsequently, used naphtha does not need to be evaporated before freezing to get the full yield since it already comes preloaded with a DMT concentration that is saturated at the freezer's temperature.

Reclaim Solvent ๐Ÿ’š

Reusing solvents is encouraged[5] at the DMT nexus.


Simply reuse freeze precipitated naphtha as-is. Re-used naphtha is saturated with DMT at freezer the temperature (~2mg/ml) and pre-freezer evaporation is not needed. Easy ๐Ÿ˜Š

Frequently Asked Questions โ“

Q: That's a lot of hypothesis you got down in the appendix. Have any experimental evidence consistent with them?

A: Yes. Benzyme's MS, together with polymerization and de-polymerization experiments. As far as we know experiments are consistent with the hypotheses listed. The community is welcome to update this Wiki entry as more evidence arises, especially if any of the hypotheses are disproved (thank you).


Q: What's so special about Vitamin C?

A: See the development notes in appendix below.


Q: Why are there only 3 pulls without a warm water bath or salting out ionic strength? Usually ~5 warm (40-50C) + high ionic strength pulls (~6% NaCl) are needed.

A: DMT monomer is highly soluble in naphtha and has an excellent partition coefficient. By converting natural DMT to this form, and keeping alkaline conditions gentle to avoid polymerization, the pulls are simpler and very efficient. No added heat or ionic strength is necessary.


Q: What is the difference between DMT polymers, oligomers, aggregates, and aromatic pi-pi stacking?

A: None, all names are equivalent and refer to the same thing: weakly bonded groups of DMT molecules that form goo instead of crystals.

Appendix: Development Notes ๐Ÿ”ฌ

Hypotheses ๐Ÿค”

This TEK hypothesizes that:


  • Not all of the DMT is in the plant in monomer form, some of it is in macro-molecule form (also called polymer, oligomer, or goo)
  • In addition to natural DMT polymer, even more polymer can form during the basing step under high alkaline, high ionic strength, and high DMT concentration conditions
  • Once natural DMT polymer is broken down, gentle alkaline conditions keep it from forming again
  • Goo can also form in the solvent. Using lighter naphtha (shorter carbon chains) minimizes DMT goo formation.
  • DMT monomer properties compared to DMT polymer:
    • Easier to dissolve in naphtha (better partition coefficient)
    • Barely clouds during naphtha evaporation
    • Slowly crashes during freeze precipitation as white crystals. In contrast, DMT polymer precipitates sooner as yellow/orange/red semisolid goo
    • Easier to handle and dose precisely
    • Low and consistent vaporization temperature, ideal for newer electronic vaporization devices with precisely tuned temperature settings
    • Visibly unique upon crystalization, eliminating questions around plant oil contaminants
    • May be easier to complex with HPBCD for sublingual administration
    • It is unknown if it has better bioavailability for oral or rectal administration. In principle, stomach acid should be able to break down DMT polymer, so perhaps there is no difference for oral administration
    • There is no expected benefit for torch vaporization by an experienced user since the strong heat produced manually can easily vaporize everything. However, the process window between vaporizing and burning the DMT is larger for the monomer which may benefit the inexperienced user

Strategy โ™Ÿ๏ธ

The strategy of this minimum polymer TEK is to break down both natural DMT aggregates during the acid step and minimize DMT aggregation during the basing and pulling steps.


Aggressive alkaline concentration conditions are avoided. While these type of processes can break down plant material, their downside is that they don't break down natural DMT aggregates and can even increase the degree of polymerization.


Fortunately, DMT aggregates can break down in acidic conditions. Therefore, to simultaneously break down DMT aggregates and plant material, a long acidic pressure cooking step is used (described before by for example Northener). Vitamin C is used to complete de-aggregation due to its good experimental performance and some literature references referring to it's ability to disrupt pi-pi bonds[6], but other acids could also work. Subsequently, relatively gentle ionic strength (no added salt), gentle alkaline pH (no excess lye beyond emulsion breakdown), and low DMT concentration (<0.5%) conditions are used to minimize any DMT re-polymerization. Naphtha is introduced before basing to minimize the time bulk DMT spends in alkaline water.

Vitamin C ๐ŸŠ

Experimentally, Vitamin C produced better results compared to acetic and citric acids. Vitamin C is biologically active as a mild antioxidant and reducing agent and can pass through cell membranes.


Vitamin C begins to degrade at 158F. The activity of vitamin C decreases with temperature, so it is added when the extract is still hot yet below this degradation temperature.


A possible specific mechanism of action is that as a strong electron donor, vitamin C disrupts parallel displaced aromatic ring pi-bond stacking conformations[7][8].


Other acids may also work, and the kitchen alchemist is encouraged to report on any new experimental results (both positive and negative).

Cloudiness ๐ŸŒซ๏ธ

DMT monomer does not readily form clouds in naphtha compared to other extractions that do not minimize polymer. In this TEK clouds form later in the freezer or evaporation process and are not as opaque. Late cloud formation is a good sign and not a cause for concern. Monomer crystals take longer to grow in the freezer, so give them extra time.

References ๐Ÿ—๏ธ

  1. โ†‘ Polymer MS evidence[1]
  2. โ†‘ Minimum Polymer[2]
  3. โ†‘ NaOH safety[3]
  4. โ†‘ Naphtha safety[4]
  5. โ†‘ On reusing non polar solvent[5]
  6. โ†‘ Uric acid de-aggregation by vitamin C[6]
  7. โ†‘ Pi-bond aromatic stacking[7]
  8. โ†‘ Tryptophan parallel displaced stacking[8]