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DMT Frequently Asked Questions and Troubleshooting Guide

DMT Chemistry and Body

Is it true the pineal gland produces DMT naturally?

If there is DMT produced / present in the pineal gland, is not proven. It is only a hypothesis raised by Dr Rick Strassman.. It IS proven, though, for decades already, that DMT is produced in the human body and is present at all times in trace amounts, for unknown functions (which could be several functions). It is also present in several different animal and plant species.

Is DMT physically dangerous?

Researches have been made showing the relative safety of dmt. It does not cause physical damage, addiction, and any tolerance disappears very quickly. Ayahuasca, the dmt-containing brew from the Amazon, has been studied by multidisciplinary groups in Brazil and other countries and was shown that in a careful context, it presents no negative cognitive/psychiatric/social consequences, even in adolescents.

However:

• People with extreme heart or other conditions for whom strong emotions could be dangerous are contra-indicated.
• It is important to notice that with any psychedelic, it is a very powerful emotional/mental experience, so those with personal or family psychiatric history, unstable emotionally or going through some very difficult moments in life should be extremely careful.
• Also, it is possible that during the experience, one temporarily loses orientation in the consensus reality, so smoking/ingesting next to a cliff, sharp objects, etc, is not a good idea.

Links

• Scientific Articles on DMT/Ayahuasca/Psychedelics

Is a MAOI diet necessary? What kind of dangers are there with medication interaction?

Unlike some pharmaceutical MAOI, the Harmalas, alkaloids present in the caapi vine and syrian rue are reversible inhibitors of MAO subtype A, while Tyramine, the component in some food that could cause problems in big amounts, is eliminated by the intact MAO-B.

In other words, in terms of food interaction, there is no huge danger related to MAOI use (in for example ayahuasca or pharmahuasca with harmalas). In any case, it is generally considered good sense to eat light before and after the use of ayahuasca and analogues.

Links

• Will smoked Rue cause MAOI?
• Think iv cracked it

DMT and Society

Is dmt legal?

Posession and sales of DMT in its pure extracted/synthesized form is illegal, schedule 1 in USA and in list xWHATEVERx of United Nations and can land you in jail if found in most countries.

Links

• Erowid DMT Law Vault

Are the natural ingredients such as mimosa, and ayahuasca, illegal?

Links: Erowid Ayahuasca Law Vault Erowid Mimosa Law Vault

Whats the price of dmt?

DO NOT SELL DMT! We at the nexus are against selling/profiting with this incredible substance. We do not know and we do not want to know how much it costs in the street, we do not want it to be sold on the streets!

Link: Street Value of DMT

DMT Extraction

Where to start?

Read on all the teks and first understand the processes, and only then attempt.

Links: Extraction Teks

What are the different bases one use?

Always read the labels carefully and make sure there are no unwanted chemicals together with the desired base.

For STB: Sodium Hydroxide/NaOH

For A/B: Sodium Hydroxide/NaOH, Potassium Hydroxide/KOH

For Dry tek: Sodium Carbonate

What are the different acids one can use?

Always read the labels carefully and make sure there are no unwanted chemicals together with the desired acid.

Plenty of different kinds of acid will work, but generally people preffer the first one on the following list:

Vinegar (acetic acid), Lemon Juice (citric acid), Phosphoric Acid, Hydrochloric Acid/HCl/Muriatic Acid.

Link: Thread 1

How long each acid cook?

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How many acid cooks?

General consensus talks about 3 boils, 2 being minimum and 5 being over-careful.

Can I make one long cook instead of 3 shorter ones?

No. You can, but yield will be smaller. Like washing clothes, its better to make more cycles with clean water then only using the same water for washing all clothes.

Which ratio of MHRB:Lye:Water is the best?

1g MHRB:1g Lye:15ml Water is generally accepted as a good ratio

Can I make one big pull instead of few smaller ones?

No. You can, but yield will be smaller. Like washing clothes, its better to make more cycles with clean water then only using the same water for washing all clothes.

How big should the pulls be?

5x 100ml per 250g bark is a sensible recomendation. More wont hurt but it will waste solvent as you will have to evaporate much afterwards. Less solvent per pull is even better, as long as you repeat more pulls to compensate.

The layers wont separate, what to do?

Possible fixes:

1. Dont shake next time! Stir/mix/turn upside down several times. Add more basic water to the mix (either mix is not basic enough or too much plant matter for too little water)
2. Make a warm water bath with the whole container (remember no fire sources near solvents, and leave top slightly open for preventing building up of pressure)
3. Tapping on the side of the container
4. Adding plenty of pure salt (will make the water more polar and therefore chemically help in the separation)

Links

• Naphtha won' seperate?

How to get the naphtha off from the mix?

STB: Each person finds his own way. One of the practical ways is to first, with syphon/pippete/turkey baster, crudely separate the solvent and maybe a little bit of the mimosa mix into a tall thin container. Then, with another pippete/baster (or same one, washed), separate the solvent (will be easier due to being thinner container, so thicker solvent layer than before) to the final container for evap or freeze precip. On this second separation, only pull out what you are sure you can do accurately, and the last bit throw back into the main container.

A/B: Same as above, or also using a separatory funnel.

Should I wash my spice?

Washing spice has as a main function eliminate any possible lye from the final product when it is used as a base earlier in the process. Unless one was really sloppy and some of the basic mimosa liquid came through to the solvent when separating, there should be nothing or very negligible amounts of it in your final product. In any case if one feels better making sure, then proceed to a sodium carbonate wash (DO NOT WASH WITH AMMONIA! Many people report losing yield with ammonia wash )

Step 1 - Have your product still in the solvent, before evaporation/precipitation. If you have already in crystal form, redissolve in a solvent.

Step 2 - Add anywhere in between a pinch to 50 grams of sodium carbonate (yes, doesnt matter... All that is necessary is for it to be a basic solution) to 100ml clean water.

Step 3 - Add your spice-containing solvent and the sodium carbonate solution to another container. Mix/shake/whatever (emulsions will not form).

Step 4 - Separate the solvent from the sodium carbonate solution using pippette/turkey baster/syphon/separatory funnel. One can repeat steps 2-4 if desired, but not necessary. One can also do last wash with pure water without sodium carbonate, though one risks losing yield.

No precipitation problem, AKA 'Where's my snow globe'?

Step 1: Evap till theres only a quarter of the naphtha left and repeat freeze precip. If it doesn't work, then go to step 2 Step 2: Add more lye/base in the basic solution, and go to step 3. Step 3: Make small warm pulls and go to step 4 Step 4: Stir/mix and let separate the layers many times over a longer period of time before pulling the solvent out of the mix

Other possibilities: Bad mimosa/plant material, not the right solvent.

Melting/dissapearing crystals, what to do?

Links: Thread 1 Thread 2 Thread 3

What to do with the waste?

Links: Thread 1

DMT Usage/Methods of administration

Whats the best method from smoking?

Many people report having problems specially with the lightbulb method.

One method generally considered successful is in a water bong, with a metal screen, a thick layer of ashes or thin layer of herbs on the bottom, then the dmt in the middle, and then another thick layer of ashes or thin layer of herbs on top. 50mg seems to be a good dose if one wants to really go inside the dmt dimension. Inhale slowly and deeply, holding in the lungs as much as possible (at least a few seconds), exhaling, and then taking a second, third one if possible, and even fourth one if one still can. Even if after the first there are already some effects, if one really wants to breakthrough, gotta keep going as much as one can.

I dont get any effects/light buzz only, what to do?

Try method above, and considering it is dmt, it should work. Other possibility is that one has a very impure product with too much plant oils and so on. One can perform one or more recrystalizations to get a purer product that is easier to weight accurately and vaporize, and then try method above.

DMT/Plant storage

Does DMT go bad?

The main degradation product of dmt seems to be dmt n-oxide, which is also active. Some people enjoy and find qualitative difference in n-oxide compared to dmt. On the other hand, other people report negative experiences with old spice, but it is unknown how much is self-suggestion and how much is really true.

In any case, n-oxide can be converted back to dmt using zinc dust, see link below

Link: Thread 1

Does mimosa go bad?

Generally mimosa should not go bad. The main possible degradation is of dmt into dmt n-oxide. N-oxide is not soluble in naphtha, which may cause some people to get small yields when extracting from older bark. N-oxide is soluble in limonene/xylene/toluene/etc, so one could extract it. N-oxide can be converted back to dmt using zinc dust, see link below

Links: Thread 1 , Thread 2

Whats the best way to store DMT?

As with mostly anything, a dark, airtight, dry and cold place is the best, but dmt is reasonably stable and one doesnt have to worry much appart from dmt-n-oxide (see question 5.1)

In any case, one can also convert to dmt fumarate which is a very stable salt form of dmt

Links: Thread 1, Thread 2

Whats the best way to store Mimosa?

As with mostly anything, a dark, airtight, dry and cold place is the best, but dmt is reasonably stable and one doesnt have to worry much appart from dmt-n-oxide (see question 5.1)

Logically, bark in pieces will keep better than when powdered

Links: Thread 1

Reference

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