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2c-b or 4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine; is a Psychedelic Phenethylamine first synthesized by Alexander Shulgin in 1974. It has been used by the psycho-therapeutic and psycho-nautical communities for about 35 years. More information:[http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2cb/][http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal020.shtml]
 
2c-b or 4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine; is a Psychedelic Phenethylamine first synthesized by Alexander Shulgin in 1974. It has been used by the psycho-therapeutic and psycho-nautical communities for about 35 years. More information:[http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2cb/][http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal020.shtml]
  
The other 2c-x compounds (2c-p, 2c-e, 2c-i, 2c-d) are more readily available via internet Research Chemical vendors and have much less information about dosage/effects. Be very careful with what you might think is 2c-b. Most party-goers have no idea there are a variety of different 2c-x compounds each with their own unique effects and dosages.  
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The other 2c-x compounds (2c-p, 2c-e, 2c-i, 2c-d) are more readily available via internet Research Chemical vendors and have much less information about dosage/effects. Be very careful with what you might think is 2c-b because most party-goers have no idea there are a variety of different 2c-x compounds each with their own unique effects and dosages.  
  
 
2c-x overdose is generally extremely un-pleasant - while most reports of large ORAL doses (50-100mg) have not resulted in death - extremely negative psychological disturbances/permanent negative effects are common.
 
2c-x overdose is generally extremely un-pleasant - while most reports of large ORAL doses (50-100mg) have not resulted in death - extremely negative psychological disturbances/permanent negative effects are common.

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Category:
  • Psychedelic Phenethylamine
Main effects:
  • Euphoria, OEV (open-eye visuals), CEV (closed-eye visuals), Disassociation (30mg+, B-hole), light stimulation (some individuals don't find it stimulating at all).
Side effects:
  • unusual body sensations (facial flushing, chills, goosebumps, body energy) - positive/negative/neutral depending on individual, dilated pupils, over-stimulation, possible stomach discomfort including mild diarrhea, gas, nausea and (rarely) vomiting.
Health risks:
  • overdose (50mg is EXTREMELY intense and generally considered the maximum dosage. Use a scale because this material is not safe to eye-ball.) While individuals have taken and survived higher amounts the effects are typically described as delusions, fear, paranoia, and an increase in side-effects. Snorting 2c-x compounds has resulted in death (rare and probably avoidable by accurate oral consumption).
Important safety remarks:
  • This substance has not been researched as much as classic psychedelics, while short-term effects and dosage (5-20 mg) are well understood, long term effects could potentially damage your health. There are a number of other 2c-x compounds which vary significantly in effect/dosage. So be careful with materials that haven't been confirmed by lab analysis as 2c-b.



Brief overview - What is 2c-b?

2c-b or 4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine; is a Psychedelic Phenethylamine first synthesized by Alexander Shulgin in 1974. It has been used by the psycho-therapeutic and psycho-nautical communities for about 35 years. More information:[1][2]

The other 2c-x compounds (2c-p, 2c-e, 2c-i, 2c-d) are more readily available via internet Research Chemical vendors and have much less information about dosage/effects. Be very careful with what you might think is 2c-b because most party-goers have no idea there are a variety of different 2c-x compounds each with their own unique effects and dosages.

2c-x overdose is generally extremely un-pleasant - while most reports of large ORAL doses (50-100mg) have not resulted in death - extremely negative psychological disturbances/permanent negative effects are common.

Effects

Direct copy/paste from Erowid[3]

POSITIVE

  • mood lift, euphoria
  • increased giggling and laughing
  • feelings of empathy
  • feelings of insight
  • brightened colors / enhanced visual perception
  • closed- and open-eye visuals
  • mental and physical stimulation
  • enhanced tactile sensation/eroticism
  • increased access to spiritual ideation

NEUTRAL

  • general change in consciousness (as with most psychoactives)
  • decreased appetite
  • pupil dilation
  • restlessness
  • unusual thoughts and speech
  • change in perception of time
  • unusual body sensations (facial flushing, chills, goosebumps, body energy)
  • change in body temperature regulation
  • ego softening (but less than LSD, mescaline, or psilocybin mushrooms)

NEGATIVE (likelihood of negative side effects increases with higher doses)

  • uncomfortable changes in body temperature (sweating/chills)
  • nausea and/or vomiting
  • tension, muscle twitching
  • confusion, difficulty concentrating, problems with activities requiring linear focus
  • insomnia
  • unpleasant visions
  • unwanted and overwhelming feelings
  • paranoia, fear, and panic

The effects of 2C-B have been described as a cross between the effects of LSD and MDMA, but that it is nothing like a combination of the two. It is mildly psychedelic, much less mind-expanding or disassociative than mushrooms or LSD, but much less directed than MDMA.

2C-B includes Open Eye Visual (OEV) effects which are usually described as crawling, shifting, or undulating, or cartooning. Closed Eye Visuals (CEVs) are present and increase with dosage. Many report a 'color shift' where objects seem to have red / green halos around them.

2C-B has a large 'body' component which some describe as "body tripping." Shulgin and others say that 2C-B can bring body-issues forward or make them more prominent and, in this way, some people say it can be a self-diagnostic tool for body work. Many, but not all, people experience stomach discomfort sometimes including mild diarrhea, gas, nausea and (rarely) vomiting. One user has reported a very a recurrent effect of increased mucus production at the base of the trachea, causing constant coughing during the effects of 2c-b, pseudoephedrine seems to clear this up.

In general, 2C-B has a somewhat 'positive' mood push as well as a mild stimulant effect, but it is far less stimulating and far less forcefully positive than MDMA. Some people find they can sleep once the peak is over (about 60-90mins after the effects start).

Most people experience 2C-B as being much 'lighter' on their body than MDMA with far less 'crash' and much less physically draining. It is also not as 'easy' as MDMA, in that it is more of a 'true' psychedelic -- allowing the users mind to become manifest and create the experience instead of being 'pushed' into a positive mood space as MDMA usually does.

Some people find the stimulating and body effects to combine in a way that is sensual or sexual and Shulgin has said that if an effective aphrodisiac is ever discovered, it will probably be patterned after 2C-B. Many people, however, find it very un-sexy with the body effects being experienced as somewhat disquieting.

Some people find 2C-B increases their ability to communicate verbally, while others find themselves unable to elucidate their ideas clearly. Some people describe a type of confusion that can be part of the experience, a type of 'stoned' feeling of mental and physical relaxation or floppiness which can translate in inability or lack of desire to go into complex intellectual processes.

2C-B at medium and low doses has the interesting character that it is often quite easy to move into and out of -- that going from feeling very involved in the experience to feeling quite 'sober' can be very fast and sometimes unexpected. Some people describe 2C-B as being more 'plastic' or 'malleable' than other psychedelics because one can learn to manipulate the depth of the effects.

2C-B can be used in some of the same ways MDMA is used for working through interpersonal issues and dealing with emotional conflicts.

'Inappropriate' smiling or giggling is common with 2C-B and other psychedelics.

As with all psychedelics, many people experience the coming up period as being somewhat cold and shivery.

As dose increases, the chance for feelings of fear and uncertainty increase.

As with other entheogens, it is unsafe to drive or use dangerous equipment with 2C-B because it effects attention span, visual acuity, concentration, and coordination. If you work with 2C-B, plan your entheogen experiences carefully and think ahead so you don't ever find yourself needing to drive during the experience.


Dosages and consumption methods

2c-b can be taken in various routes of administration, each one slightly changing the effects, duration, and dose required.

  • The compound may be taken Nasally and Orally. 2c-b can also be vaporized, but the effects are so short lived this ROA is not worthwhile.


There are reports of IM/IV 2c-b, but I do not condone such behavior, nor is there any reason to risk your life for a novel ROA.

    • DO NOT IM/IV materials which you are not 100% certain of sterility and MEDICAL GRADE purity (99.9%). Because being certain of these things is highly un-likely for the average user - DO NOT INJECT 2c-b.**


NASAL (Negative effects usually increase)

Duration - 2-4 hours, + 2-3 hours of after effects.

  • Mild - 1-5 mg.
  • Moderate - 5-10 mg.
  • High - 10-15 mg.
  • Very High/M-Hole - 15mg+


ORAL

Duration - 4-8 hours, + 2-4 hours of after effects.

  • Mild - 2-15 mg.
  • Moderate - 12-16 mg.
  • High - 17-25 mg.
  • Very High/B-Hole - 25-50 mg.


History of usage

Alexander Shulgin first experimented with the substance on himself and his wife Ann Shulgin. Before becoming available as a recreational drug on the street it saw use by underground psychotherapists. It developed a reputation for being used at the tail end of MDMA sessions to lengthen/potentiate/add its own character to the experience. Once MDMA was made illegal some psychotherapists used it as a substitution.

Gracie & Zarkov wrote an experience report on 2c-b overdose (1984). [4]