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| − | I've read this tek with great interest. I like it because, apart from being food grade all the way, the most dangerous chemical involved is the relatively "easy" Ca(OH)2 - no HCl or H2S04, which | + | I've read this tek with great interest. I like it because, apart from being food grade all the way, the most dangerous chemical involved is the relatively "easy" Ca(OH)2 - no HCl or H2S04, which SWIM would never want to mess with. |
| − | + | SWIM has a few questions - maybe the points they rise could be incorporated into your new edited description of the tek. | |
| + | 1) BASIC MATERIAL | ||
| + | Drying the cactus takes time and could possibly waste some alkaloids (different reports about the issue of drying aren't consistent). | ||
Do you think it could be possible to start with mashed fresh cactus, for example processing it in a blender? We're adding water back into the dried cactus anyway. | Do you think it could be possible to start with mashed fresh cactus, for example processing it in a blender? We're adding water back into the dried cactus anyway. | ||
| + | Another tek I've read starts with frozen cactus, which also can be ground in a mixer. This allegedly helps by breaking cell walls. What do you think about these alternatives? | ||
| − | + | 2) FINAL WASH | |
| + | Since MEK is not always easy to get by, it has been suggested replacing it with a mixture of d-limonene and ethanol. What would be the correct ratio? Would denaturated ethanol be OK? | ||
| − | [[User:Globos|Globos]] | + | 3) CARBONATE |
| + | How/when does it make sense to add carbonated water (seltz) to the process? | ||
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| + | SWIM can't post in the thread about the tek ( https://dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4002 ) because she's too much of a rookie, so she asked me to drop a note in the discussion page of the wiki. | ||
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| + | [[User:Globos|Globos]] 09:34, 7 April 2010 (UTC) | ||
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| + | : Just stick to 69ron's tek for this page (as stated in the header), but feel free to start work on a more generalized article on cactus extraction, if you wish.--[[User:Amor fati|amor_fati]] 17:49, 15 April 2010 (UTC) | ||
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| + | I will edit and expand this wiki myself if I get any answers from 69ron or other knowledgeable users. Unfortunately I can't post in the forum threads (still too much of a newbie). [[User:Globos|Globos]] 12:46, 14 April 2010 (UTC) | ||
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| + | == xylene for d-limonene == | ||
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| + | My cat was wondering if he could use xylene instead of d-limonene for the time being until he can either find a store to buy it at or gets enough money for online. | ||
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| + | if so wouldhe use the same amount? | ||
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| + | 69ron's D-Limonene Mescaline Extraction | ||
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| + | Can the D-Limonene be re-used after washing with the vinegar? The d-Limonene is quite expensive. | ||
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I'll be updating this page this weekend. --Digglover 06:34, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
I've read this tek with great interest. I like it because, apart from being food grade all the way, the most dangerous chemical involved is the relatively "easy" Ca(OH)2 - no HCl or H2S04, which SWIM would never want to mess with.
SWIM has a few questions - maybe the points they rise could be incorporated into your new edited description of the tek.
1) BASIC MATERIAL Drying the cactus takes time and could possibly waste some alkaloids (different reports about the issue of drying aren't consistent). Do you think it could be possible to start with mashed fresh cactus, for example processing it in a blender? We're adding water back into the dried cactus anyway. Another tek I've read starts with frozen cactus, which also can be ground in a mixer. This allegedly helps by breaking cell walls. What do you think about these alternatives?
2) FINAL WASH Since MEK is not always easy to get by, it has been suggested replacing it with a mixture of d-limonene and ethanol. What would be the correct ratio? Would denaturated ethanol be OK?
3) CARBONATE How/when does it make sense to add carbonated water (seltz) to the process?
SWIM can't post in the thread about the tek ( https://dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4002 ) because she's too much of a rookie, so she asked me to drop a note in the discussion page of the wiki.
Globos 09:34, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
- Just stick to 69ron's tek for this page (as stated in the header), but feel free to start work on a more generalized article on cactus extraction, if you wish.--amor_fati 17:49, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
I will edit and expand this wiki myself if I get any answers from 69ron or other knowledgeable users. Unfortunately I can't post in the forum threads (still too much of a newbie). Globos 12:46, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
xylene for d-limonene
My cat was wondering if he could use xylene instead of d-limonene for the time being until he can either find a store to buy it at or gets enough money for online.
if so wouldhe use the same amount?
69ron's D-Limonene Mescaline Extraction
Can the D-Limonene be re-used after washing with the vinegar? The d-Limonene is quite expensive.
