Q21Q21's Vinegar/Lime A/B Extraction Tek - Revision history

Downwardsfromzero: /* Common issues/Troubleshooting */ correction of orthography to "pH"

2023-07-12T18:52:23Z

‎Common issues/Troubleshooting: correction of orthography to "pH"

Downwardsfromzero: /* Basification with Lime: */ correction of orthography to "pH"

2023-07-12T18:51:38Z

‎Basification with Lime:: correction of orthography to "pH"

Downwardsfromzero: /* Acidification with Vinegar: */ correction of orthography to "pH"

2023-07-12T18:48:38Z

‎Acidification with Vinegar:: correction of orthography to "pH"

Downwardsfromzero: /* Basification with Lime: */ correction of orthography to "pH"

2023-07-12T18:46:42Z

‎Basification with Lime:: correction of orthography to "pH"

Downwardsfromzero: /* Acidification with Vinegar: */ correction of orthography to "pH"

2023-07-12T18:45:03Z

‎Acidification with Vinegar:: correction of orthography to "pH"

Downwardsfromzero: == Common issues/Troubleshooting == 1. now reads "pH is not high enough"

2023-07-12T18:42:16Z

== Common issues/Troubleshooting == 1. now reads "pH is not high enough"

Q21q21 at 11:39, 10 October 2020

2020-10-10T11:39:53Z

Q21q21 at 11:26, 7 October 2020

2020-10-07T11:26:27Z

Q21q21 at 11:25, 7 October 2020

2020-10-07T11:25:47Z

Q21q21 at 11:21, 7 October 2020

2020-10-07T11:21:52Z

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 '''1. Your Lime is not Calcium Hydroxide'''
-This will mean that the PH of your basified bark mush is not high enough to convert the DMT-acetate to DMT freebase. Adding lime and water to the mix may fix this, but it depends on what your previous "lime" was.
+This will mean that the pH of your basified bark mush is not high enough to convert the DMT-acetate to DMT freebase. Adding lime and water to the mix may fix this, but it depends on what your previous "lime" was.
 '''2. Your Solvent was not the D-limonene/Xylene/Naphtha that was mentioned in the Teks.'''

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 <font size="2px">A basified mix of MHRB at Consistency 2</font>
-'''''This step utilizes the alkalinity of the lime to convert the polar DMT-acetate in the vinegar-water (a polar solvent) into non-polar DMT freebase which is soluble in limonene/xylene (non-polar solvents) and not soluble in water. Since lime can raise the PH to 12-12.5 the PH of the "mush" should be close to that though once again PH testing shouldn't be necessary.'''''
+'''''This step utilizes the alkalinity of the lime to convert the polar DMT-acetate in the vinegar-water (a polar solvent) into non-polar DMT freebase which is soluble in limonene/xylene (non-polar solvents) and not soluble in water. Since lime can raise the pH to 12-12.5 the pH of the "mush" should be close to that though once again pH testing shouldn't be necessary.'''''
 '''MAKE SURE YOUR LIME IS <font color="red">Calcium Hydroxide</font> OR ELSE THE TEK WILL NOT WORK!'''

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−	'''''This step utilizes the vinegar (acetic acid) to change the DMT-tannate molecules contained in the MHRB into DMT-acetate and in the process dissolve them into the surrounding vinegar. The PH of the dilute vinegar is ~2.5 so the mix will probably be around that but checking the PH shouldn't be necessary.'''''	+	'''''This step utilizes the vinegar (acetic acid) to change the DMT-tannate molecules contained in the MHRB into DMT-acetate and in the process dissolve them into the surrounding vinegar. The pH of the dilute vinegar is ~2.5 so the mix will probably be around that but checking the pH shouldn't be necessary.'''''

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 <font size="2px">A basified mix of MHRB at Consistency 2</font>
-'''''This step utilizes the alkalinity of the lime to convert the polar DMT-acetate in the vinegar-water (a polar solvent) into non-polar DMT freebase which is soluble in limonene/xylene (non-polar solvents) and not soluble in water. Since lime can raise the PH to 12-12.5 the PH of the "mush" should be close to that though once again PH testing shouldn't be necessary.'''''
+'''''This step utilizes the alkalinity of the lime to convert the polar DMT-acetate in the vinegar-water (a polar solvent) into non-polar DMT freebase which is soluble in limonene/xylene (non-polar solvents) and not soluble in water. Since lime can raise the pH to 12-12.5 the pH of the "mush" should be close to that though once again pH testing shouldn't be necessary.'''''
 '''MAKE SURE YOUR LIME IS <font color="red">Calcium Hydroxide</font> OR ELSE THE TEK WILL NOT WORK!'''
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 Can form emulsions with solvent (usually only with vigorous agitation)
 === Pulling with Non-Polar Solvent: ===

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−	'''''This step utilizes the vinegar (acetic acid) to change the DMT-tannate molecules contained in the MHRB into DMT-acetate and in the process dissolve them into the surrounding vinegar. The PH of the dilute vinegar is ~2.5 so the mix will probably be around that but checking the PH shouldn't be necessary.'''''	+	'''''This step utilizes the vinegar (acetic acid) to change the DMT-tannate molecules contained in the MHRB into DMT-acetate and in the process dissolve them into the surrounding vinegar. The pH of the dilute vinegar is ~2.5 so the mix will probably be around that but checking the pH shouldn't be necessary.'''''

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-'''Step 1:''' Filter the vinegar through a cotton ball in a funnel, then add a bit of water to wash the vinegar out of the cotton ball and pour it all in a pot.
+'''Step 1:''' Filter the vinegar through a cotton ball placed in the stem of a funnel into a pot. Then pour about a shotglass of water through the cotton ball into the pot to wash out any remaining vinegar.
 '''Step 2:''' Boil the vinegar down on max until it is around 40-50ml
-'''Step 3:''' Remove the pot from heat, then use a dropper to carefully filter the liquid through a cotton ball then wash the vinegar out of the cotton ball again with water
+'''Step 3:''' Remove the pot from heat, then use a dropper to carefully filter the liquid through a cotton ball back into the pot then wash the vinegar out of the cotton ball again with water.
 '''Step 4:''' Lower the heat to medium low and watch it carefully until it is around starts to become red in color.

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−	<font size="2px"><font color="red">Jimjam DMT</font> I extracted using Tek 1 with d-limonene</font>	+	<font size="2px"><font color="red">Jimjam DMT</font> acetate I extracted using Tek 1 with d-limonene</font>

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 I would caution anyone against making lots of doses ahead of time with the slow or quick method because DMT-acetate seems somewhat unstable outside the tincture.
-In an area with average temperature of 30ºC and regular indirect sun exposure it took DMT-acetate on stainless steel mesh 2 months to degrade to under 25% potency.
+It seems like heat is the most significant factor in the degredation though, so storing the pre-dosed metal balls in the freezer is recommended before use.
-−
-I have recently started tests on sun exposure vs no sun exposure.
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 To make an ethanol tincture either:
 : Proceed to step 4 below then continue to heat on minumum until a sap-like red goo remains
 After it cools add ethanol drop by drop, stirring with a toothpick until the goo is all dissolved.
 Use a dropper to transfer to a small dropper bottle to complete your ticture.
 : Evaporate all of the vinegar in a flat-bottom glass dish in an oven on the lowest setting then take it out as soon as (or slightly before) all the liquid is gone.
-nce the resultant goo smells strongly, but not of vinegar then let it cool.
 Prepare a small glass-dropper with a minimal amount of ethanol (1 gram of DMT dissolves in about 3ml of 75% ethanol)
 Scrape up the goo on a razor then use a toothpick to transfer the goo into the bottle to make your tincture.

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	<font color="yellow">Note 1:</font> You could technically evaporate the vinegar completely until it no longer smells of vinegar and you have a very pure smokeable product. But that would result in a goo which is very difficult to measure and transport and must be kept in a sealed container or else it will absorb dirt/dust from the air.		<font color="yellow">Note 1:</font> You could technically evaporate the vinegar completely until it no longer smells of vinegar and you have a very pure smokeable product. But that would result in a goo which is very difficult to measure and transport and must be kept in a sealed container or else it will absorb dirt/dust from the air.

−	A far more useful alternative to a vinegar tincture would be making a more traditional tincture using ethanol. See this section for information about making one.	+	A far more useful alternative to a vinegar tincture would be making a more traditional tincture using ethanol. See [http://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Q21Q21%27s_Vinegar/Lime_A/B_Extraction_Tek#Ethanol_Tincture this section] for information about making one.