Phalaris spp. - Revision history

Cosmic Spore: /* General phalaris info */

2014-05-15T16:44:37Z

‎General phalaris info

Cosmic Spore: /* General phalaris info */

2014-05-15T16:43:57Z

‎General phalaris info

Cosmic Spore: /* Relevant links */

2014-04-17T15:07:40Z

‎Relevant links

Cosmic Spore at 15:05, 17 April 2014

2014-04-17T15:05:07Z

Endlessness: /* Extraction teks */

2012-06-01T14:39:37Z

‎Extraction teks

Entropymancer: /* Relevant links */

2012-03-08T15:28:31Z

‎Relevant links

Endlessness: /* Alkaloid Content */

2011-12-05T11:06:37Z

‎Alkaloid Content

Endlessness: /* Alkaloid Content */

2011-12-05T11:06:02Z

‎Alkaloid Content

Endlessness: /* Cultivation */

2011-11-15T18:22:27Z

‎Cultivation

Endlessness: /* Relevant links */

2011-11-08T16:13:38Z

‎Relevant links

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 Phalaris is a genus of grasses that are known in the ethnobotanical world for being a potential alternative source for psychoactive tryptamines.
-[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/users/cosmicspore/Phalaris.zip Phalaris files.zip]
+'''[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/users/cosmicspore/Phalaris.zip Phalaris files.zip]'''
 == Alkaloid Content ==

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	Phalaris is a genus of grasses that are known in the ethnobotanical world for being a potential alternative source for psychoactive tryptamines.		Phalaris is a genus of grasses that are known in the ethnobotanical world for being a potential alternative source for psychoactive tryptamines.
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		+	[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/users/cosmicspore/Phalaris.zip Phalaris files.zip]

	== Alkaloid Content ==		== Alkaloid Content ==

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 * [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23534 Successful Phalaris extraction]
 * [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19547 Where are we at the grass tek]
-* [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&m=506030#post506030  Phalaris/other grass types ID thread]
+* [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=34525 Phalaris/other grass types ID thread]
 == Scientific articles ==
 * [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/resource.ashx?a=3957 The occurrence of 2-MTHBC in Phalaris arundinacea]

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 * [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23534 Successful Phalaris extraction]
 * [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19547 Where are we at the grass tek]
 == Scientific articles ==
 * [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/resource.ashx?a=3957 The occurrence of 2-MTHBC in Phalaris arundinacea]

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 For these reasons, one will more likely have good results if one extracts from a grown plant of a known strain such as AQ1, Big Medicine for DMT, and Yugo Red or Turkey Red for 5-MeO-DMT, as well as using the stress/growth tricks to improve alkaloid content as described above
-To get rid of gramine, there are still some analytical tests to make sure and find a definite tek for phalaris but the main indication we have at this point is the fact that gramine should not be soluble in solvents such as petroleum ether / hexane / heptane / aliphatic naphtha, and therefore a few recrystallizations should get rid of it.
+To get rid of gramine, there are still some analytical tests to make sure and find a definite tek for phalaris but the main indication we have at this point is the fact that gramine should not be soluble in solvents such as petroleum ether / hexane / heptane / aliphatic naphtha, and therefore pulling with those solvents and recrystallizing with them should be enough to remove gramine. Also cold/room temp limonene seems to not pull gramine. More info in analysis thread linked further below.
 For separating from fats, fumarate precipitation such as FASI on limonene or FASA on xylene could potentially be a way to bypass the need for defats.

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 The alkaloids found so far in Phalaris according to festi and samorini 1994:
-N-methyltryptamine (MMT)
+*N-methyltryptamine (MMT)
--methoxy-N-methyltryptamine (5-MeO-MMT)
+*5-methoxy-N-methyltryptamine (5-MeO-MMT)
-N,N-dimethyltryptamine (DMT)
+*N,N-dimethyltryptamine (DMT)
--methoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine (5-MeO-DMT)
+*5-methoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine (5-MeO-DMT)
--hydroxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine (Bufoteninft, 5-QH-DMT)
+*5-hydroxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine (Bufotenine, 5-HO-DMT)
--methyl-tryptamine
+*5-methyl-tryptamine
--methoxy-tryptamine
+*5-methoxy-tryptamine
--methyl-l,2,3,4-tetrahydro-B-carboline (MTHC), not found in P. aquatica
+*2-methyl-l,2,3,4-tetrahydro-B-carboline (MTHC), not found in P. aquatica
--methyl-6-methoxy-1,2,3,4-tetrahydro-B-carboline (MMTHC)
+*2-methyl-6-methoxy-1,2,3,4-tetrahydro-B-carboline (MMTHC)
-,9-dimethyl-6-methoxy-l ,2,3,4-tetrahydro-B-carboline (DMTHC)
+*2,9-dimethyl-6-methoxy-l ,2,3,4-tetrahydro-B-carboline (DMTHC)
-Gramine
+*Gramine
--methoxy-gramine
+*7-methoxy-gramine
-,7-dimethoxy-gramine
+*5,7-dimethoxy-gramine
-Hordenine
+*Hordenine
 == Cultivation ==

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	The alkaloid content in the Phalaris genus varies greatly depending on species and strain, as well as conditions of growing. Not all Phalaris will be good for extracting psychoactive tryptamines, some may have very little alkaloids, some may have more of toxic alkaloids such as gramine, or of stimulant-like alkaloids such as hordenine, or they may have wanted tryptamines such as DMT and 5-MeO-DMT. Do not bioassay an extract from Phalaris without making sure you are getting the alkaloids you want. For more info check file linked below.		The alkaloid content in the Phalaris genus varies greatly depending on species and strain, as well as conditions of growing. Not all Phalaris will be good for extracting psychoactive tryptamines, some may have very little alkaloids, some may have more of toxic alkaloids such as gramine, or of stimulant-like alkaloids such as hordenine, or they may have wanted tryptamines such as DMT and 5-MeO-DMT. Do not bioassay an extract from Phalaris without making sure you are getting the alkaloids you want. For more info check file linked below.
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		+	The alkaloids found so far in Phalaris according to festi and samorini 1994:
		+
		+	N-methyltryptamine (MMT)
		+	5-methoxy-N-methyltryptamine (5-MeO-MMT)
		+	N,N-dimethyltryptamine (DMT)
		+	5-methoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine (5-MeO-DMT)
		+	5-hydroxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine (Bufoteninft, 5-QH-DMT)
		+	5-methyl-tryptamine
		+	5-methoxy-tryptamine
		+	2-methyl-l,2,3,4-tetrahydro-B-carboline (MTHC), not found in P. aquatica
		+	2-methyl-6-methoxy-1,2,3,4-tetrahydro-B-carboline (MMTHC)
		+	2,9-dimethyl-6-methoxy-l ,2,3,4-tetrahydro-B-carboline (DMTHC)
		+	Gramine
		+	7-methoxy-gramine
		+	5,7-dimethoxy-gramine
		+	Hordenine

	== Cultivation ==		== Cultivation ==

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 == Cultivation ==
-[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/resource.ashx?a=8255 Publication with conditions of growth that affect alkaloid content]
+[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/resource.ashx?a=8255 Samorini & Festi (amazing publication with review of phalaris analysis and conditions that affect growth)]
 == Suppliers ==

← Older revision		Revision as of 16:13, 8 November 2011
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	* [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23534 Successful Phalaris extraction]		* [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23534 Successful Phalaris extraction]
	* [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19547 Where are we at the grass tek]		* [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19547 Where are we at the grass tek]
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		+	== Scientific articles ==
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		+	* [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/resource.ashx?a=3957 The occurrence of 2-MTHBC in Phalaris arundinacea]