Category talk:DMT Containing Plants - Revision history

Lotsofgif at 14:39, 14 February 2011

2011-02-14T14:39:55Z

Lotsofgif at 14:07, 14 February 2011

2011-02-14T14:07:34Z

Lotsofgif at 13:28, 14 February 2011

2011-02-14T13:28:40Z

Lotsofgif: added example table

2011-02-14T12:34:26Z

added example table

Lotsofgif at 09:40, 12 February 2011

2011-02-12T09:40:55Z

Lotsofgif at 06:54, 12 February 2011

2011-02-12T06:54:58Z

Amor fati: moved discussion

2010-01-12T17:28:08Z

moved discussion

New page

This page is very large! Might be worth using this as a start on a list page like - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_flowers - rather than trying to fit all this info in...

If this was a list page then it would make sense to create a page that was a slightly more readable intro to DMT-containing plants.

: The purpose of this page is to have all of the alkaloid content available for comparative reference. Each plant could potentially have its own page and would be listed in category:botanics (though a separate list wouldn't be out of the question). This page would link to those pages as well. What this page needs is a plant info template. There is a sections in the nexian dmt handbook that will serve as an intro to dmt-containing plants and elaborate only on the more commonly used and available plants.--[[User:Amor fati|amor_fati]] 03:23, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

:: I'll create a template for the plants on this page, this will make the page a bit shorter and more readable. --[[User:TheTraveler|TheTraveler]] 08:12, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

::: Would this data be more useful as a table if it's aimed to be used in that way? Are images getting in the way of the data?

== Botanical Transclusion Project ==

I'm going to be undertaking a project in which I create a page for each botanical, head it with the boxes contained on this page, and replace the ones on this page with partial transclusion markup (similar to templates). This way, all info about each particular botanical will be centralized on its own page and can be used freely on other pages while updating automatically. The downside is that this will require the creation of many new pages, but it will reduce clutter on this page and discrepancies between pages that reference any of the botanicals.

On a side note, I wonder if it would be possible to embed pop-outs of these boxes on the forum, as in clicking on a plant name mentioned on the forum and having it's particular box pop out (also containing the link to it's particular page, just as it does here). In any case, I think that expanded integration between the forum and the wiki would help to further the cause of the wiki while also enhancing the forum, itself.

--[[User:Amor fati|amor_fati]] 14:47, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

: Alright, so this has been successfully applied [[Mimosa hostilis]] with transclusion occurring in [[DMT_Containing_Plants#Mimosa]] and [[The_Nexian_DMT_Handbook#Common_Botanical_Sources]], using <nowiki>{{:Mimosa hostilis}}</nowiki>. So I will now apply the common name, Jurema, to the box on the mimosa hostilis page, and it will show up on the handbook and botanicals list in the same manner.--[[User:Amor fati|amor_fati]] 15:28, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

: Another option for if creating a page for each plant is undesirable, would be to label each box on the botanical list so it can be specifically recalled for transclusion elsewhere. I think that an individual page for each would make it easier to keep track of and edit, so that the list can simply be left as is. However, one consideration may be server space, and I'm not fully aware of how that works. I'll keep going as I am at my leisure, and if changes need to be made, it shouldn't be too difficult.--[[User:Amor fati|amor_fati]] 15:41, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

: The wikipedia transclusion employed by [[user:Fatcat]] is an incredibly expedient way to get botanical pages set up, but is there a better or more attractive way for our wiki to handle them, while also leaving room for additions (like preparation of MHRB in the mimosa article)? I'm pretty sure that a settings adjustment by [[user:TheTraveler]] is in order to accomodate this, but I'm not sure.--[[User:Amor fati|amor_fati]] 16:12, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

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 |?<sub>g</sub>root bark<br />?<sub>g</sub>stem bark
 |?<sub>g</sub>/?<sub>g</sub> DMT (a/b)
-|-
+|}

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 |9
 |[[File:[[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Mimosa-tenuiflora-range-map.png]]|150px]]
-|.31% root bark<br />0.03% stem bark
+|DMT 0.31% root bark<br />DMT 0.03% stem bark
 |?<sub>g</sub>root bark<br />?<sub>g</sub>stem bark
 |?<sub>g</sub>/?<sub>g</sub> DMT (a/b)

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 ! class="unsortable"| Naturally Located<br />
 ! class="unsortable"| Alkaloid%<br />location<br /><small>(% place)</small>
 !Extracted<br /><small>avg,highest<sub>per kg of plant</sub></small>
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 |image
 |Type
-|ph/leach
+|ph<br />leach
-|summer/winter
+|summer<br />winter
 |light
 |zone#
 |image of world with locations marked
 |alkaloid % at location
 |avg<sub>g</sub>/highest<sub>g</sub> chemical, (process a/b,STB,etc.)
 |-
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 |[[File:Mimosa Hostilis.jpg|50px]]
 |evergreen tree or shrub
-|middle/leachy
+|middle<br />leachy
-|copious/minimum
+|copious<br />minimum
 |direct
 |9
 |[[File:[[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Mimosa-tenuiflora-range-map.png]]|150px]]
 |.31% root bark<br />0.03% stem bark
 |?<sub>g</sub>/?<sub>g</sub> DMT (a/b)
 |-

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 ::: Would this data be more useful as a table if it's aimed to be used in that way? Are images getting in the way of the data?
-SWIM thinks a table as seen on - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_solar_system_objects_by_radius - should be considered.<br />
+{| class="wikitable sortable"
-accept with these columns;<br />
+|-
-Type-tree,bush,vine,etc.<br />
+!science name common name
-natural climate type - USDA zone #<br />
+! class="unsortable"| Image
-Naturally Located - image of world with locations marked<br />
+!Type<br /><small>(Tree:Bush:<br />Vine:Fungi)</small>
-Alkaloid Location - root,leaves,bark,stem<br />
+!soil<br /><small>ph/leach</small>
-Total Alkaloid %(per kg of plant)<br />
+!water<br /><small>summer/winter</small>
-DMT %of total Alkaloid(o-100%)<br />
+!light<br /><small>direct:difuse:<br />shady:dark</small>
-:grams extracted (per kg of plant)<br />
+!Temperature <br />(USDA zone: #)
--MEO-DMT %of total Alkaloid(o-100%)<br />
+! class="unsortable"| Naturally Located<br />
-:::grams extracted (per kg of plant)<br />
+! class="unsortable"| Alkaloid%<br />location<br /><small>(% place)</small>
-etc...<br />
+!Extracted<br /><small>avg,highest<sub>per kg of plant</sub></small>
-I've made a mock up of it but the code doesn't seem to work as well on here. I'll post it if you want.
 == Botanical Transclusion Project ==

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 ::: Would this data be more useful as a table if it's aimed to be used in that way? Are images getting in the way of the data?
-SWIM think the "list" on - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_solar_system_objects_by_radius - should be considered. columns:
+SWIM thinks a table as seen on - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_solar_system_objects_by_radius - should be considered.<br />
+accept with these columns;<br />
-total alkaloids %
+Type-tree,bush,vine,etc.<br />
-:DMT%
+natural climate type - USDA zone #<br />
-:5-MEO-DMT%
+Naturally Located - image of world with locations marked<br />
-type
+Alkaloid Location - root,leaves,bark,stem<br />
-:fungi
+Total Alkaloid %(per kg of plant)<br />
-:tree
+DMT %of total Alkaloid(o-100%)<br />
-:bush
+:grams extracted (per kg of plant)<br />
-:etc.
+-MEO-DMT %of total Alkaloid(o-100%)<br />
-%of succesfull alcoloid extraction for a given method
+:::grams extracted (per kg of plant)<br />
-:DMT% using A/B highest% and usual% extracted
+etc...<br />
-:etc.
+I've made a mock up of it but the code doesn't seem to work as well on here. I'll post it if you want.
-climate type to grow in
-:humidity
-:temp
-:light
-:etc.
-where the alcoloid is located in the plant/fungi
-:leaves
-:root
-:stem
-:etc.
-−
 == Botanical Transclusion Project ==

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	::: Would this data be more useful as a table if it's aimed to be used in that way? Are images getting in the way of the data?		::: Would this data be more useful as a table if it's aimed to be used in that way? Are images getting in the way of the data?
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		+	SWIM think the "list" on - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_solar_system_objects_by_radius - should be considered. columns:
		+
		+	total alkaloids %
		+	:DMT%
		+	:5-MEO-DMT%
		+	type
		+	:fungi
		+	:tree
		+	:bush
		+	:etc.
		+	%of succesfull alcoloid extraction for a given method
		+	:DMT% using A/B highest% and usual% extracted
		+	:etc.
		+	climate type to grow in
		+	:humidity
		+	:temp
		+	:light
		+	:etc.
		+	where the alcoloid is located in the plant/fungi
		+	:leaves
		+	:root
		+	:stem
		+	:etc.
		+

	== Botanical Transclusion Project ==		== Botanical Transclusion Project ==