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The Tao of Rue Extraction

2014-08-20T02:12:26Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* Initial Notes and Tips */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (Kosher Salt, Rock Salt or Iodine Free Table Salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 Big Collection Jars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible. Another alternative is to put down some cardboard on your countertops and floors where you'll be working. Mr. Clean brand Magic Erasers work exceptionally well for removing the stains with a bit of elbow grease.
* When waiting for the freebased harmalas to settle, setting the container on a subwoofer or washing machine helps speed the process along.
* Keep all of the wash water and allow everything to settle for a couple of days. Sometimes those cloudy solutions can contain some extra harmalas if you want to get every last MG. *Kudos to evil804 for the last two tips.
* For manske your solution is better to be somewhat concentrated, if the volume is too large, the crystals grow more difficult. Did 1 liter for 100 gr of seeds.
* Amount of salt: I go for 20gr per 100 ml of solution, it is high but it still delivers very long needles, and I have no pesky salt contamination. Phosphoric acid was used at pH 3.
* When the solution comes from the stove, before it gets cooled (for manske) it goes trough a very fine coffee filter. It is weird to catch a lot of dust in that phase, probably added (anti clogging?) agents from the salt? *Kudos to Jees for the last three tips
* Be sure to study all of the links and references contained in this tek!!

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|
"The path of the Tao might not always be the easy one;

But it is always the right one...

May you walk the higher path...."
|30.75%
|450px
}}

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later. 
'''Keep in mind, the initial filtering is the hardest part of this extraction!''' It's all downhill from here, hang in there.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|30.75%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted the basic (high ph) lye water off the top, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your freebase alks to redissolve everything back into the solution as harmala acetates. Once your alkaloids are redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]

=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have redissolved your alkaloids in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar and then filtered the solution, it's time to perform the manske.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured to the right. This seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|This is your harmala hcl... Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out. Also note, that after you filter out the harmala hcl you can base the filtered salt solution to claim a bit more alks sometimes. *Kudos to evil804 for pointing this out.
|30.75%
|450px

}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmala hcl in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

   

   

 

   

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|30.75%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2014-08-20T02:11:21Z

Melodic Catastrophe:

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (Kosher Salt, Rock Salt or Iodine Free Table Salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 Big Collection Jars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible. Another alternative is to put down some cardboard on your counter tops and floors where you'll be working.
* When waiting for the freebased harmalas to settle, setting the container on a subwoofer or washing machine helps speed the process along.
* Keep all of the wash water and allow everything to settle for a couple of days. Sometimes those cloudy solutions can contain some extra harmalas if you want to get every last MG. *Kudos to evil804 for the last two tips.
* For manske your solution is better to be somewhat concentrated, if the volume is too large, the crystals grow more difficult. Did 1 liter for 100 gr of seeds.
* Amount of salt: I go for 20gr per 100 ml of solution, it is high but it still delivers very long needles, and I have no pesky salt contamination. Phosphoric acid was used at pH 3.
* When the solution comes from the stove, before it gets cooled (for manske) it goes trough a very fine coffee filter. It is weird to catch a lot of dust in that phase, probably added (anti clogging?) agents from the salt? *Kudos to Jees for the last three tips
* Be sure to study all of the links and references contained in this tek!!

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|
"The path of the Tao might not always be the easy one;

But it is always the right one...

May you walk the higher path...."
|30.75%
|450px
}}

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later. 
'''Keep in mind, the initial filtering is the hardest part of this extraction!''' It's all downhill from here, hang in there.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|30.75%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted the basic (high ph) lye water off the top, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your freebase alks to redissolve everything back into the solution as harmala acetates. Once your alkaloids are redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]

=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have redissolved your alkaloids in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar and then filtered the solution, it's time to perform the manske.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured to the right. This seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|This is your harmala hcl... Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out. Also note, that after you filter out the harmala hcl you can base the filtered salt solution to claim a bit more alks sometimes. *Kudos to evil804 for pointing this out.
|30.75%
|450px

}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmala hcl in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

   

   

 

   

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|30.75%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2014-08-20T02:07:54Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* Final Notes and Tips */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (Kosher Salt, Rock Salt or Iodine Free Table Salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 Big Collection Jars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|
"The path of the Tao might not always be the easy one;

But it is always the right one...

May you walk the higher path...."
|30.75%
|450px
}}

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later. 
'''Keep in mind, the initial filtering is the hardest part of this extraction!''' It's all downhill from here, hang in there.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|30.75%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted the basic (high ph) lye water off the top, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your freebase alks to redissolve everything back into the solution as harmala acetates. Once your alkaloids are redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]

=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have redissolved your alkaloids in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar and then filtered the solution, it's time to perform the manske.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured to the right. This seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|This is your harmala hcl... Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out. Also note, that after you filter out the harmala hcl you can base the filtered salt solution to claim a bit more alks sometimes. *Kudos to evil804 for pointing this out.
|30.75%
|450px

}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmala hcl in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

   

   

 

   

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|30.75%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible. Another alternative is to put down some cardboard on your counter tops and floors where you'll be working.
* When waiting for the freebased harmalas to settle, setting the container on a subwoofer or washing machine helps speed the process along.
* Keep all of the wash water and allow everything to settle for a couple of days. Sometimes those cloudy solutions can contain some extra harmalas if you want to get every last MG. *Kudos to evil804 for the last two tips.
* For manske your solution is better to be somewhat concentrated, if the volume is too large, the crystals grow more difficult. Did 1 liter for 100 gr of seeds.
* Amount of salt: I go for 20gr per 100 ml of solution, it is high but it still delivers very long needles, and I have no pesky salt contamination. Phosphoric acid was used at pH 3.
* When the solution comes from the stove, before it gets cooled (for manske) it goes trough a very fine coffee filter. It is weird to catch a lot of dust in that phase, probably added (anti clogging?) agents from the salt? *Kudos to Jees for the last three tips

== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2013-01-24T18:31:13Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* Step 6 - Manske */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (Kosher Salt, Rock Salt or Iodine Free Table Salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 Big Collection Jars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|
"The path of the Tao might not always be the easy one;

But it is always the right one...

May you walk the higher path...."
|30.75%
|450px
}}

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later. 
'''Keep in mind, the initial filtering is the hardest part of this extraction!''' It's all downhill from here, hang in there.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|30.75%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted the basic (high ph) lye water off the top, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your freebase alks to redissolve everything back into the solution as harmala acetates. Once your alkaloids are redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]

=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have redissolved your alkaloids in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar and then filtered the solution, it's time to perform the manske.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured to the right. This seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|This is your harmala hcl... Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out. Also note, that after you filter out the harmala hcl you can base the filtered salt solution to claim a bit more alks sometimes. *Kudos to evil804 for pointing this out.
|30.75%
|450px

}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmala hcl in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

   

   

 

   

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|30.75%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible. Another alternative is to put down some cardboard on your counter tops and floors where you'll be working.
* When waiting for the freebased harmalas to settle, setting the container on a subwoofer or washing machine helps speed the process along.
* Keep all of the wash water and allow everything to settle for a couple of days. Sometimes those cloudy solutions can contain some extra harmalas if you want to get every last MG. *Kudos to evil804 for the last two tips.
== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2013-01-24T18:21:39Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* Step 6 - Manske */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (Kosher Salt, Rock Salt or Iodine Free Table Salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 Big Collection Jars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|
"The path of the Tao might not always be the easy one;

But it is always the right one...

May you walk the higher path...."
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|450px
}}

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later. 
'''Keep in mind, the initial filtering is the hardest part of this extraction!''' It's all downhill from here, hang in there.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|30.75%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted the basic (high ph) lye water off the top, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your freebase alks to redissolve everything back into the solution as harmala acetates. Once your alkaloids are redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]

=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have redissolved your alkaloids in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution, it's time to manske them. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured to the right. The appearance of the crystals doesn't really matter at this point because they'll be redissolved several times during the cleanup steps.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured to the right. This seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|This is your harmala hcl... Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out. Also note, that after you filter out the harmala hcl you can base the filtered salt solution to claim a bit more alks sometimes. *Kudos to evil804 for pointing this out.
|30.75%
|450px

}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmala hcl in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

   

   

 

   

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|30.75%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible. Another alternative is to put down some cardboard on your counter tops and floors where you'll be working.
* When waiting for the freebased harmalas to settle, setting the container on a subwoofer or washing machine helps speed the process along.
* Keep all of the wash water and allow everything to settle for a couple of days. Sometimes those cloudy solutions can contain some extra harmalas if you want to get every last MG. *Kudos to evil804 for the last two tips.
== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2013-01-24T18:20:43Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* Step 6 - Manske */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (Kosher Salt, Rock Salt or Iodine Free Table Salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 Big Collection Jars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|
"The path of the Tao might not always be the easy one;

But it is always the right one...

May you walk the higher path...."
|30.75%
|450px
}}

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later. 
'''Keep in mind, the initial filtering is the hardest part of this extraction!''' It's all downhill from here, hang in there.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|30.75%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted the basic (high ph) lye water off the top, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your freebase alks to redissolve everything back into the solution as harmala acetates. Once your alkaloids are redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]

=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have redissolved your alkaloids in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution, it's time to manske them. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured to the right. The appearance of the crystals doesn't really matter at this point because they'll be redissolved several times during the cleanup steps. This mainly comes in handy at the end of the tek when your alks are clean and you'd like to store your harmalas as a salt instead of as a freebase.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured to the right. This seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|This is your harmala hcl... Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out. Also note, that after you filter out the harmala hcl you can base the filtered salt solution to claim a bit more alks sometimes. *Kudos to evil804 for pointing this out.
|30.75%
|450px

}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmala hcl in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

   

   

 

   

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|30.75%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible. Another alternative is to put down some cardboard on your counter tops and floors where you'll be working.
* When waiting for the freebased harmalas to settle, setting the container on a subwoofer or washing machine helps speed the process along.
* Keep all of the wash water and allow everything to settle for a couple of days. Sometimes those cloudy solutions can contain some extra harmalas if you want to get every last MG. *Kudos to evil804 for the last two tips.
== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2013-01-24T18:15:54Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* Step 5 - Base */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (Kosher Salt, Rock Salt or Iodine Free Table Salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 Big Collection Jars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|
"The path of the Tao might not always be the easy one;

But it is always the right one...

May you walk the higher path...."
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}}

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later. 
'''Keep in mind, the initial filtering is the hardest part of this extraction!''' It's all downhill from here, hang in there.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
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|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted the basic (high ph) lye water off the top, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your freebase alks to redissolve everything back into the solution as harmala acetates. Once your alkaloids are redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]

=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured to the right.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured to the right. This seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|This is your harmala hcl... Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out. Also note, that after you filter out the harmala hcl you can base the filtered salt solution to claim a bit more alks sometimes. *Kudos to evil804 for pointing this out.
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}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmala hcl in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

   

   

 

   

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
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}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible. Another alternative is to put down some cardboard on your counter tops and floors where you'll be working.
* When waiting for the freebased harmalas to settle, setting the container on a subwoofer or washing machine helps speed the process along.
* Keep all of the wash water and allow everything to settle for a couple of days. Sometimes those cloudy solutions can contain some extra harmalas if you want to get every last MG. *Kudos to evil804 for the last two tips.
== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2013-01-24T18:14:05Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* Step 5 - Base */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (Kosher Salt, Rock Salt or Iodine Free Table Salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 Big Collection Jars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|
"The path of the Tao might not always be the easy one;

But it is always the right one...

May you walk the higher path...."
|30.75%
|450px
}}

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later. 
'''Keep in mind, the initial filtering is the hardest part of this extraction!''' It's all downhill from here, hang in there.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|30.75%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted the basic (high ph) lye water off the top, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your freebase alkaloids back into the solution as harmala acetates. Once your alkaloids are redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]

=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured to the right.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured to the right. This seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|This is your harmala hcl... Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out. Also note, that after you filter out the harmala hcl you can base the filtered salt solution to claim a bit more alks sometimes. *Kudos to evil804 for pointing this out.
|30.75%
|450px

}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmala hcl in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

   

   

 

   

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|30.75%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible. Another alternative is to put down some cardboard on your counter tops and floors where you'll be working.
* When waiting for the freebased harmalas to settle, setting the container on a subwoofer or washing machine helps speed the process along.
* Keep all of the wash water and allow everything to settle for a couple of days. Sometimes those cloudy solutions can contain some extra harmalas if you want to get every last MG. *Kudos to evil804 for the last two tips.
== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

Lextek

2012-11-18T05:54:41Z

Melodic Catastrophe:

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Lextek<ref>Lex's DMT Extraction v1.0 Oct. -2007[http://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Image:Lextek_v1.pdf]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|DO NOT USE THIS TEK FOR ACACIA EXTRACTION!.}}

== Section 1: Extraction of DMT ==

=== Materials needed ===
(Quantities can be scaled accordingly to work with smaller or larger amounts of material)
* 2 kilograms of DMT containing plant material (Acacia Obtusifolia bark will be used here)
* 250 grams of Sodium Hydroxide (Caustic Soda / Lye) – Bunnings / Safeway
* 1 Litre of white vinegar (dilute Acetic Acid) – Safeway
* 2 Litres of Shellite (non-polar solvent) – Bunnings
* 12 Litres of distilled water (polar solvent) – Bunnings

The idea behind the extraction is that DMT is in the plant; we can get it out.

At our advantage, the state of the DMT can be changed between a salt or freebase by using acids or bases respectively, ie: if you have a pH 4 (acidic) solution containing DMT, the DMT will be converted to a salt (using acetic acid: DMT Acetate, using tartaric acid: DMT Tartrate, etc..) If you now basify this to pH 14, all the DMT salt will be converted to its freebase form.

As we change the state of the DMT, we also change its solubility properties:
* DMT salts are soluble in polar solvents (water, alcohol) but insoluble in non-polar solvents.
* DMT freebase is soluble in non-polar solvents (Shellite) but is insoluble in polar solvents.

Understanding these basic points allows an extraction technique to be devised:
# '''Prepare Your Bark''' Chop up and grind your bark to maximise its exposed surface area.
# '''Acid Cook''' Simmer the bark in pH 4 acidic water (using vinegar). Keep the liquid and discard the bark. The low pH ensures all DMT is in its salt form, which will dissolve into the water.
# '''Basify''' Basify the liquid to pH 14 with Sodium Hydroxide (Caustic Soda / Lye). The high pH ensures all DMT is in its freebase form, which is soluble in Shellite.
# '''Initial Shellite Extraction''' Add an amount of Shellite to the above solution, shake, separate, and repeat. The freebase DMT will dissolve into the Shellite, along with some unwanted plant gunk.
# '''Defat Step 1: Acid Wash''' Acidify water to pH 4 using acetic acid (vinegar) and add to the combined Shellite extractions. This will convert the DMT freebase to the water-soluble salt, DMT Acetate. The DMT Acetate will move from the Shellite to the water leaving behind the plant gunk.
# '''Defat Step 2: Basify''' To the water + DMT Acetate solution, add an amount of Sodium Hydroxide. This will again convert the DMT to its freebase form, which is soluble in Shellite.
# '''Final Shellite Extraction''' Add an amount of Shellite to the above solution, shake, separate, and repeat. The freebase DMT will dissolve into the Shellite. At this point no plant gunk remains.
# '''Freeze Precipitation''' The last step is to get your DMT freebase out of the Shellite. At freezing temperatures, the DMT becomes insoluble in Shellite and will precipitate out.

== Step-by-step guide ==

=== Part 1: Prepare Your Bark ===
Preparing the bark is a crucial step to ensure your yield is as high as possible. The aim is to maximise the surface area of the bark so the majority of the DMT is exposed and not protected inside thick layers of wood.

I have tried many methods and I find this one to work at least. Some methods are better than others; its personal choice so be innovative and find the one that works best for you.
# Weight an amount of bark, for this extraction 2 kilos will be used.
# Using secateurs chop the bark into pieces no larger than pictured here - the smaller the better.
# Fill your grinder to about a third of its capacity with bark and grind.
# Shaking it around while grinding helps to ensure that most of the bark comes into contact with the blades.
# Do this until all your bark is powdered (or as close as possible to).
# Be sure to give your grinder a rest between loads if you can feel it heating up too much.

=== Part 2: Acid Cook ===
The acid cook will convert the DMT into its water-soluble acetate salt (acetate as we are using vinegar – acetic acid). The DMT Acetate will migrate away from the bark, into the acidic water.

Most acids can be used without a problem. We will use white vinegar (which contains roughly 5% acetic acid) diluted in distilled water. It is easy to get and fairly safe to work with.
# Acidify an excess amount of distilled water by mixing one part vinegar to three parts water. You are aiming for a '''pH of 4'''. Use a digital pH meter or litmus paper to determine the pH of the solution.
# Place all the bark into a large saucepan and fill with the acidified water, ensuring all the bark is well covered. Four litres per cook was used here. Bring the mixture to a light simmer and proceed to cook for a further hour. Once complete, pour off and save the liquid. Perform this step a further two times.
# Combine all liquids and filter out the fine bark particles through a muslin cloth.
# Reduce all liquids down to a few liters on low heat. This may take several hours. For your own sake '''BE SURE''' that your kitchen has adequate ventilation. Humidity can build up quicker than you think and before you know it your ceiling and walls may be dripping in oily red acidic liquid !!

=== Part 3: Basify ===
Basifying the acidic solution to pH 14 with Sodium Hydroxide will convert the DMT Acetate to the DMT base.

The DMT base is insoluble in polar solvents (water) but soluble in non-polar solvents (Shellite).

Performing this conversion is preparation for Part 4: Initial Shellite Extraction
# Let the reduced acidic solution cool to lukewarm and pour into a HDPE jug like the one the water came in.
# Weigh 100 grams of Sodium Hydroxide and '''SLOWLY''' add 10 grams at a time, shaking well each time. This will raise the '''pH to 14'''. The solution will turn black. Use a digital pH meter or litmus paper to determine the pH of the solution. '''NOTE:''' Adding base to water is an exothermic reaction (releases heat) and if added too quickly to already hot water, spitting can occur. You DO NOT want this stuff on you !! Once the solution is basified and stable, swirl it around to homogenise the mixture.

=== Part 4: Initial Shellite Extraction ===
Shellite is a non-polar solvent and can be used to remove non-polar substances (DMT base) from polar solutions (water).

'''Note:''' This step must be done while the solution is HOT to maximise the solubility of the DMT base into the Shellite. Without heat, yields will be greatly reduced.
# Pour 250mL of Shellite into the basified solution. Put the lid on and shake. '''NOTE!!''' The first few shakes will cause a rapid release of vapors which must be released. Watch the pressure carefully and release frequently !! '''Adequate ventilation is a must at this point'''
# Let the mixture sit for a few minutes. Looking closely you will see two layers. The top layer is the Shellite layer which now contains the DMT base and some fats and oils from the bark.
# Using a siphon device or some other method, separate top non-polar layer from the bottom polar layer. Experiment with different ways to do this (turkey baster, ghetto separatory funnel, etc..) and find one that works for you. I find siphoning the bottom layer to another jug allows for good separation.
# Repeat steps 2 and 3 another two times and combine the Shellite pulls. For the third pull use 500mL of Shellite. Remember to ensure that both the solution and Shellite are HOT to aid in the extraction. Use a hot water bath for this. '''DO NOT''' use an open-flame heat source !!! For the third pull, add another 50 grams of Sodium Hydroxide to the solution before extracting and shake real well, this will heat the solution significantly.

=== Part 5: Defat Step 1: Acid Wash ===
As the Shellite solution pictured above contains both DMT base and plant gunk, we are now going to remove the DMT from the solution and leave the plant gunk behind.

This will be done by washing the Shellite + DMT + plant gunk solution with acidic water, resulting in the DMT base once again becoming the water-soluble salt, DMT Acetate and migrating away from the Shellite, however leaving behind the plant gunk.
# Again, acidify an excess amount of distilled water by mixing one part vinegar to three parts water. You are aiming for a '''pH of 4'''. Use a digital pH meter or litmus paper to determine the pH of the solution.
# Add approximately 250mL of acidic water to the Shellite solution. The mixture does not need to be hot; in fact it is better if all liquids at this step are kept at room temperature as otherwise plant gunk will come back across.
# Using the same siphoning method in Part 4 - Step 3, siphon off the top non-polar layer from the bottom polar layer, this time keeping the polar layer (acidic water).

=== Part 5: Defat Step 1: Acid Wash ===
As the Shellite solution pictured above contains both DMT base and plant gunk, we are now going to remove the DMT from the solution and leave the plant gunk behind.

This will be done by washing the Shellite + DMT + plant gunk solution with acidic water, resulting in the DMT base once again becoming the water-soluble salt, DMT Acetate and migrating away from the Shellite, however leaving behind the plant gunk.
# Again, acidify an excess amount of distilled water by mixing one part vinegar to three parts water. You are aiming for a '''pH of 4'''. Use a digital pH meter or litmus paper to determine the pH of the solution.
# Add approximately 250mL of acidic water to the Shellite solution. The mixture does not need to be hot; in fact it is better if all liquids at this step are kept at room temperature as otherwise plant gunk will come back across.
# Using the same siphoning method in Part 4 - Step 3, siphon off the top non-polar layer from the bottom polar layer, this time keeping the polar layer (acidic water).
# Repeat step 2 three more times and combine the three polar layers. For the third time use 500mL.

=== Part 6: Defat Step 2: Basify ===
Once again, in preparation to extract the DMT from the acidic water solution, we are going to basify the liquid.

This will again convert the water-soluble DMT Acetate salt into the water-insoluble DMT base. Note that no plant gunk exists in the vinegar solution; the solution at this point consists only of acidic water + DMT Acetate.

Slowly add 60 grams of Sodium Hydroxide to the solution to raise the '''pH to 14'''.

Use a digital pH meter or litmus paper to determine the pH of the solution.

Note that the solution has been placed into a new vessel.

=== Part 7: Final Shellite Extraction ===
We will now extract the DMT base from the basified solution with Shellite.

As previously explained, adding Sodium Hydroxide (base) to the acidic water + DMT Acetate solution converted the DMT Acetate salt to the DMT Base which is insoluble in our polar solvent (water) and soluble in our non-polar solvent (Shellite).
# Measure 250mL of Shellite and add it to the acidic water. Heat the mixture in a hot water bath and shake.
# Allow the layers to separate and siphon and separate, keeping the non-polar layer this time. Repeat step 1 two more times and combine the Shellite extractions. Again, for the third pull add another 30 grams of Sodium Hydroxide (to reheat) and extract with 500mL of Shellite.

=== Part 8: Freeze Precipitation ===
Our solution is now clean enough to proceed to removing the DMT Base from the Shellite.

# Pour the solution into a wide-mouthed jar that you can fit your hand into and with the use of a fan, evaporate approximately half of the solution. You may notice that your solution has turned milky and an oily film has formed on the glass where the solvent has been evaporated. This is actually a bunch un-crystallised DMT. If you want to get your efficiency right up then heat up the solution with a hot water bath and swirl it around plenty to re- dissolve all this DMT.
# Place the solution in the freezer and resist all temptation to disturb it for at least 48 hours.
# After 48 hours or more, pour off the Shellite being careful not to lose any DMT floaters with it. You should see something like this! Evaporate all excess Shellite with either a fan or just leave it alone until no scent of Shellite remains. For your own curiosity you can let the Shellite you poured off evaporate slowly over a week or so and see if any DMT remained in the Shellite.
# Once the DMT is dry you can scrape it out and admire the end result of your hard work.

Pictured is 5.9 grams of some damn clean spice I attribute the ultra-high purity of the end result to the post-defat process used in this tech. This yields a fairly low 0.3% (0.4–0.5% expected) however the tree used was very young (about 5 years old) which could be a major factor.

== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Acid/Base]]
[[Category:DMT]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2012-09-08T21:14:13Z

Melodic Catastrophe:

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
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* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
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* '''Water'''
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* '''Salt''' (Kosher Salt, Rock Salt or Iodine Free Table Salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
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* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 Big Collection Jars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

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== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later. 
'''Keep in mind, the initial filtering is the hardest part of this extraction!''' It's all downhill from here, hang in there.}}

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=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured to the right.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured to the right. This seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|This is your harmala hcl... Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out. Also note, that after you filter out the harmala hcl you can base the filtered salt solution to claim a bit more alks sometimes. *Kudos to evil804 for pointing this out.
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=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmala hcl in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

   

   

 

   

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

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=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible. Another alternative is to put down some cardboard on your counter tops and floors where you'll be working.
* When waiting for the freebased harmalas to settle, setting the container on a subwoofer or washing machine helps speed the process along.
* Keep all of the wash water and allow everything to settle for a couple of days. Sometimes those cloudy solutions can contain some extra harmalas if you want to get every last MG. *Kudos to evil804 for the last two tips.
== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2012-09-08T20:47:44Z

Melodic Catastrophe:

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (Kosher Salt, Rock Salt or Iodine Free Table Salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 Big Collection Jars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}

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== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later. 
'''Keep in mind, the initial filtering is the hardest part of this extraction!''' It's all downhill from here, hang in there.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|30.75%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured to the right.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured to the right. This seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|This is your harmala hcl... Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out. Also note, that after you filter out the harmala hcl you can base the filtered salt solution to claim a bit more alks sometimes. *Kudos to evil804 for pointing this out.
|30.75%
|450px

}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmala hcl in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

   

   

 

   

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|30.75%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible. Another alternative is to put down some cardboard on your counter tops and floors where you'll be working.
* When waiting for the freebased harmalas to settle, setting the container on a subwoofer or washing machine helps speed the process along.
* Keep all of the wash water and allow everything to settle for a couple of days. Sometimes those cloudy solutions can contain some extra harmalas if you want to get every last MG. *Kudos to evil804 for the last two tips.
== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2012-06-09T17:16:06Z

Melodic Catastrophe:

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (Kosher Salt, Rock Salt or Iodine Free Table Salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 Big Collection Jars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later. 
'''Keep in mind, the initial filtering is the hardest part of this extraction!''' It's all downhill from here, hang in there.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|30.75%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured to the right.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured to the right. This seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|This is your harmala hcl... Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out. Also note, that after you filter out the harmala hcl you can base the filtered salt solution to claim a bit more alks sometimes. *Kudos to evil804 for pointing this out.
|30.75%
|450px

}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmala hcl in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

   

   

 

   

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|30.75%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible. Another alternative is to put down some cardboard on your counter tops and floors where you'll be working.
* When waiting for the freebased harmalas to settle, setting the container on a subwoofer or washing machine helps speed the process along.
* Keep all of the wash water and allow everything to settle for a couple of days. Sometimes those cloudy solutions can contain some extra harmalas if you want to get every last MG. *Kudos to evil804 for the last two tips.
== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2012-06-09T16:53:44Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* Step 7 - Filter */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (Kosher Salt, Rock Salt or Iodine Free Table Salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 Big Collection Jjars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later. 
'''Keep in mind, the initial filtering is the hardest part of this extraction!''' It's all downhill from here, hang in there.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|30.75%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured to the right.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured to the right. This seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|This is your harmala hcl... Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out. Also note, that after you filter out the harmala hcl you can base the filtered salt solution to claim a bit more alks sometimes. *Kudos to evil804 for pointing this out.
|30.75%
|450px

}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmala hcl in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

   

   

 

   

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|30.75%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible. Another alternative is to put down some cardboard on your counter tops and floors where you'll be working.
* When waiting for the freebased harmalas to settle, setting the container on a subwoofer or washing machine helps speed the process along.
* Keep all of the wash water and allow everything to settle for a couple of days. Sometimes those cloudy solutions can contain some extra harmalas if you want to get every last MG. *Kudos to evil804 for the last two tips.
== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2012-06-09T16:51:48Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* Step 6 - Manske */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (Kosher Salt, Rock Salt or Iodine Free Table Salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 Big Collection Jjars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later. 
'''Keep in mind, the initial filtering is the hardest part of this extraction!''' It's all downhill from here, hang in there.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|30.75%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured to the right.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured to the right. This seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out. Also note, that after you filter out the harmala hcl you can base the filtered salt solution to claim a bit more alks sometimes. *Kudos to evil804 for pointing this out.
|30.75%
|450px

}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmala hcl in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

   

   

 

   

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|30.75%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible. Another alternative is to put down some cardboard on your counter tops and floors where you'll be working.
* When waiting for the freebased harmalas to settle, setting the container on a subwoofer or washing machine helps speed the process along.
* Keep all of the wash water and allow everything to settle for a couple of days. Sometimes those cloudy solutions can contain some extra harmalas if you want to get every last MG. *Kudos to evil804 for the last two tips.
== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2012-06-09T03:40:52Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (Kosher Salt, Rock Salt or Iodine Free Table Salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 Big Collection Jjars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later. 
'''Keep in mind, the initial filtering is the hardest part of this extraction!''' It's all downhill from here, hang in there.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|30.75%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured below.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured to the right. This seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out. Also note, that after you filter out the harmala hcl you can base the filtered salt solution to claim a bit more alks sometimes. *Kudos to evil804 for pointing this out.
|30.75%
|450px

}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmala hcl in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

   

   

 

   

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|30.75%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible. Another alternative is to put down some cardboard on your counter tops and floors where you'll be working.
* When waiting for the freebased harmalas to settle, setting the container on a subwoofer or washing machine helps speed the process along.
* Keep all of the wash water and allow everything to settle for a couple of days. Sometimes those cloudy solutions can contain some extra harmalas if you want to get every last MG. *Kudos to evil804 for the last two tips.
== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2012-06-09T03:40:27Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* Step 9 - Manske */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (Kosher Salt, Rock Salt or Iodine Free Table Salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 Big Collection Jjars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later. 
'''Keep in mind, the initial filtering is the hardest part of this extraction!''' It's all downhill from here, hang in there.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured below.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured to the right. This seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out. Also note, that after you filter out the harmala hcl you can base the filtered salt solution to claim a bit more alks sometimes. *Kudos to evil804 for pointing this out.
|30.75%
|450px

}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmala hcl in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

   

   

 

   

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|30.75%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible. Another alternative is to put down some cardboard on your counter tops and floors where you'll be working.
* When waiting for the freebased harmalas to settle, setting the container on a subwoofer or washing machine helps speed the process along.
* Keep all of the wash water and allow everything to settle for a couple of days. Sometimes those cloudy solutions can contain some extra harmalas if you want to get every last MG. *Kudos to evil804 for the last two tips.
== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2012-06-09T03:39:56Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* Step 8 - Redissolve */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (Kosher Salt, Rock Salt or Iodine Free Table Salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 Big Collection Jjars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later. 
'''Keep in mind, the initial filtering is the hardest part of this extraction!''' It's all downhill from here, hang in there.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured below.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured to the right. This seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out. Also note, that after you filter out the harmala hcl you can base the filtered salt solution to claim a bit more alks sometimes. *Kudos to evil804 for pointing this out.
|30.75%
|450px

}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmala hcl in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

   

   

 

   

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible. Another alternative is to put down some cardboard on your counter tops and floors where you'll be working.
* When waiting for the freebased harmalas to settle, setting the container on a subwoofer or washing machine helps speed the process along.
* Keep all of the wash water and allow everything to settle for a couple of days. Sometimes those cloudy solutions can contain some extra harmalas if you want to get every last MG. *Kudos to evil804 for the last two tips.
== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2012-06-09T03:39:39Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* Step 8 - Redissolve */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (Kosher Salt, Rock Salt or Iodine Free Table Salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 Big Collection Jjars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later. 
'''Keep in mind, the initial filtering is the hardest part of this extraction!''' It's all downhill from here, hang in there.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured below.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured to the right. This seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out. Also note, that after you filter out the harmala hcl you can base the filtered salt solution to claim a bit more alks sometimes. *Kudos to evil804 for pointing this out.
|30.75%
|450px

}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmala hcl in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

   

   

 

   

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible. Another alternative is to put down some cardboard on your counter tops and floors where you'll be working.
* When waiting for the freebased harmalas to settle, setting the container on a subwoofer or washing machine helps speed the process along.
* Keep all of the wash water and allow everything to settle for a couple of days. Sometimes those cloudy solutions can contain some extra harmalas if you want to get every last MG. *Kudos to evil804 for the last two tips.
== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2012-06-09T03:39:28Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* Step 8 - Redissolve */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (Kosher Salt, Rock Salt or Iodine Free Table Salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 Big Collection Jjars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later. 
'''Keep in mind, the initial filtering is the hardest part of this extraction!''' It's all downhill from here, hang in there.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured below.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured to the right. This seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out. Also note, that after you filter out the harmala hcl you can base the filtered salt solution to claim a bit more alks sometimes. *Kudos to evil804 for pointing this out.
|30.75%
|450px

}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmala hcl in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

   

   

 

   

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible. Another alternative is to put down some cardboard on your counter tops and floors where you'll be working.
* When waiting for the freebased harmalas to settle, setting the container on a subwoofer or washing machine helps speed the process along.
* Keep all of the wash water and allow everything to settle for a couple of days. Sometimes those cloudy solutions can contain some extra harmalas if you want to get every last MG. *Kudos to evil804 for the last two tips.
== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2012-06-09T03:39:04Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* Step 8 - Redissolve */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (Kosher Salt, Rock Salt or Iodine Free Table Salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 Big Collection Jjars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later. 
'''Keep in mind, the initial filtering is the hardest part of this extraction!''' It's all downhill from here, hang in there.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured below.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured to the right. This seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out. Also note, that after you filter out the harmala hcl you can base the filtered salt solution to claim a bit more alks sometimes. *Kudos to evil804 for pointing this out.
|30.75%
|450px

}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmala hcl in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

   

 

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible. Another alternative is to put down some cardboard on your counter tops and floors where you'll be working.
* When waiting for the freebased harmalas to settle, setting the container on a subwoofer or washing machine helps speed the process along.
* Keep all of the wash water and allow everything to settle for a couple of days. Sometimes those cloudy solutions can contain some extra harmalas if you want to get every last MG. *Kudos to evil804 for the last two tips.
== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2012-06-09T03:38:17Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* Step 8 - Redissolve */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (Kosher Salt, Rock Salt or Iodine Free Table Salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 Big Collection Jjars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later. 
'''Keep in mind, the initial filtering is the hardest part of this extraction!''' It's all downhill from here, hang in there.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured below.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured to the right. This seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out. Also note, that after you filter out the harmala hcl you can base the filtered salt solution to claim a bit more alks sometimes. *Kudos to evil804 for pointing this out.
|30.75%
|450px

}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmala hcl in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

 

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible. Another alternative is to put down some cardboard on your counter tops and floors where you'll be working.
* When waiting for the freebased harmalas to settle, setting the container on a subwoofer or washing machine helps speed the process along.
* Keep all of the wash water and allow everything to settle for a couple of days. Sometimes those cloudy solutions can contain some extra harmalas if you want to get every last MG. *Kudos to evil804 for the last two tips.
== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2012-06-09T03:37:37Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* Step 8 - Redissolve */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (Kosher Salt, Rock Salt or Iodine Free Table Salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 Big Collection Jjars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later. 
'''Keep in mind, the initial filtering is the hardest part of this extraction!''' It's all downhill from here, hang in there.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured below.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured to the right. This seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out. Also note, that after you filter out the harmala hcl you can base the filtered salt solution to claim a bit more alks sometimes. *Kudos to evil804 for pointing this out.
|30.75%
|450px

}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmala hcl in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible. Another alternative is to put down some cardboard on your counter tops and floors where you'll be working.
* When waiting for the freebased harmalas to settle, setting the container on a subwoofer or washing machine helps speed the process along.
* Keep all of the wash water and allow everything to settle for a couple of days. Sometimes those cloudy solutions can contain some extra harmalas if you want to get every last MG. *Kudos to evil804 for the last two tips.
== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2012-06-09T03:37:08Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* Step 7 - Filter */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (Kosher Salt, Rock Salt or Iodine Free Table Salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 Big Collection Jjars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later. 
'''Keep in mind, the initial filtering is the hardest part of this extraction!''' It's all downhill from here, hang in there.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured below.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured to the right. This seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out. Also note, that after you filter out the harmala hcl you can base the filtered salt solution to claim a bit more alks sometimes. *Kudos to evil804 for pointing this out.
|30.75%
|450px

}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmala hcl in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible. Another alternative is to put down some cardboard on your counter tops and floors where you'll be working.
* When waiting for the freebased harmalas to settle, setting the container on a subwoofer or washing machine helps speed the process along.
* Keep all of the wash water and allow everything to settle for a couple of days. Sometimes those cloudy solutions can contain some extra harmalas if you want to get every last MG. *Kudos to evil804 for the last two tips.
== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2012-06-09T03:34:06Z

Melodic Catastrophe:

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (Kosher Salt, Rock Salt or Iodine Free Table Salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 Big Collection Jjars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later. 
'''Keep in mind, the initial filtering is the hardest part of this extraction!''' It's all downhill from here, hang in there.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured below.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured to the right. This seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out. Also note, that after you filter out the harmala hcl you can base the filtered salt solution to claim a bit more alks sometimes. *Kudos to evil804 for pointing this out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmala hcl in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible. Another alternative is to put down some cardboard on your counter tops and floors where you'll be working.
* When waiting for the freebased harmalas to settle, setting the container on a subwoofer or washing machine helps speed the process along.
* Keep all of the wash water and allow everything to settle for a couple of days. Sometimes those cloudy solutions can contain some extra harmalas if you want to get every last MG. *Kudos to evil804 for the last two tips.
== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2012-06-09T03:22:00Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* Final Notes and Tips */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (rock salt or iodine free table salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 big collection jars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later. 
'''Keep in mind, the initial filtering is the hardest part of this extraction!''' It's all downhill from here, hang in there.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured below.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured to the right. This seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmalas in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible. Another alternative is to put down some cardboard on your counter tops and floors where you'll be working.
* When waiting for the freebased harmalas to settle, setting the container on a subwoofer or washing machine helps speed the process along.

== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2012-06-09T00:41:58Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* Step 6 - Manske */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (rock salt or iodine free table salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 big collection jars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later. 
'''Keep in mind, the initial filtering is the hardest part of this extraction!''' It's all downhill from here, hang in there.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured below.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured to the right. This seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmalas in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible.

== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2012-06-09T00:40:50Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* Step 6 - Manske */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (rock salt or iodine free table salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 big collection jars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later. 
'''Keep in mind, the initial filtering is the hardest part of this extraction!''' It's all downhill from here, hang in there.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured below.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured below. This seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmalas in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible.

== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2012-06-09T00:38:51Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (rock salt or iodine free table salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 big collection jars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later. 
'''Keep in mind, the initial filtering is the hardest part of this extraction!''' It's all downhill from here, hang in there.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured below.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have (it seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow) and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured below.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmalas in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible.

== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2012-04-11T16:35:32Z

Melodic Catastrophe:

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (rock salt or iodine free table salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 big collection jars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|300px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}
[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|400px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
=== Step 6 - Manske ===
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured below.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have (it seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow) and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured below.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmalas in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|420px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|420px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again to retrieve your alkaloids.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]
Also refer to Endlessness' thread about Sodium Carbonate <ref>Sodium carbonate for harmala xtraction - too low ph? loss of yield? [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30378]</ref>

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible.

== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2012-04-11T16:17:07Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* Step 12 - Finish up */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (rock salt or iodine free table salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 big collection jars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|250px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}

[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

=== Step 6 - Manske ===
[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|350px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured below.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have (it seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow) and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured below.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmalas in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide#Remove Excess NaOH, Salts, Etc.|Step 6 Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc]] for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible.

== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2012-04-11T16:08:44Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* Final Notes and Tips */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (rock salt or iodine free table salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 big collection jars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|250px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}

[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

=== Step 6 - Manske ===
[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|350px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured below.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have (it seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow) and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured below.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmalas in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.
* Be careful about spills! Syrian Rue is a very powerful dye and it WILL stain if it isn't cleaned up immediately. It's best to work in an area that the stains won't matter or on stainless steel if possible.

== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

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2011-09-22T10:10:58Z

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* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Enoons Cold Caapi Tek]]
* [[The Tao of Rue Extraction]]

===Crude Manske (salt) Extract===

* [[Harmine Crystals from Syrian Rue]]

==HBWR==

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Enoons Cold Caapi Tek

2011-09-22T10:09:52Z

Melodic Catastrophe:

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Enoon's Cold Acetic Acid Extraction of Caapi Tek <ref>Cold Acetic Acid Extraction of Caapi[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=18043]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

== Initial Notes ==

I performed a cold acetic acid extraction of white Caapi from the MHUK vendor. A previous extraction via [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]] boiling 5x45min yielded ~ 1.2% alkaloids after several prufication steps. So I want to see if I can reach the same with a cold extraction.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Shred Vine ===

Begin with whole or partially shredded vine and shred it up as much as possible. This will allow the alkaloids to migrate to the solution easier.

[[File:EnoonColdCaapi-01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|Before shredding.]]
[[File:EnoonColdCaapi-02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|After shredding.]]

=== Step 2 - Collect and Add Acid ===

This is added to my favorite PP container and approx. 300ml of 3% acetic acid is added.

[[File:EnoonColdCaapi-03.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|Shredded Vine in Container.]]
[[File:EnoonColdCaapi-04.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|300ml of 3% acetic acid.]]
[[File:EnoonColdCaapi-08.jpg|thumb|c|center|270px|Vine and Acid combined.]]

=== Step 3 - Soak ===

Allow this to soak in the refrigerator for 3 days / 72 hours.

=== Step 4 - Filter and Collect ===

After soaking for 72 hours, filter the liquid and set aside. Add another 300ml of 3% acetic acid to the vine and allow to soak for another 72 hours.

[[File:EnoonColdCaapi-05.jpg|thumb|c|center|370px|Fresh acid added on the left, the first pull on the right.]]

=== Step 5 - Repeat ===

Repeat step 4 again twice for a total of 3 x 3 day soaks.

Combine the pulls and reduce a bit. After you have reduced the pulls to a manageable level, base with sodium carbonate.

The orange liquid is decanted off and the alkaloids are washed with fresh distilled water 4 times.

[[File:EnoonColdCaapi-06.jpg|thumb|c|center|370px|The orange liquid decanted off is in the center. Based alks are on the right. Notice the color after 2 washes.]]

=== Step 6 - Filter ===

After you are finished rinsing the alkaloids, it's time to filter them. If you do not have a food dehydrator it is recommended to hang the filter to allow it to dry from all sides.

[[File:EnoonColdCaapi-07.jpg|thumb|c|center|370px|The final product before drying.]]

== Yield & Conclusion==

Yield: After 5, 3 day pulls, the yield was 1.2% which is the same yield as doing 5 boils.

Conclusion: Save some energy and soak your vine in the fridge!

== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

Enoons Cold Caapi Tek

2011-09-22T10:09:20Z

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The Tao of Rue Extraction

2011-09-10T04:57:16Z

Melodic Catastrophe:

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (rock salt or iodine free table salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 big collection jars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|250px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}

[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

=== Step 6 - Manske ===
[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|350px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured below.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have (it seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow) and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured below.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmalas in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 5 - 8 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. This will remove any final impurities.

For lab quality filtering techniques, check out this thread <ref>Learn useful chem techniques from MIT videos [https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4705]</ref>.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.

== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2011-09-10T04:48:05Z

Melodic Catastrophe:

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (rock salt or iodine free table salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 big collection jars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|250px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}

[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

=== Step 6 - Manske ===
[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|350px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured below.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have (it seems to work better with an excess of water/vinegar to allow the crystals more room to grow) and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured below.

The third way:

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Not Recommended for Final Manske due to the higher chance of more salt contamination. It's better to use one of the above methods, preferably Phlux's on the final manske and push any remaining alks out by reducing the solution further after you filter the harmala hcl.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmalas in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to do Steps 8 - 11 at least two or more times but no less than one more time. When you re-acidify and filter, you'd be amazed at the amount of gunk you get.

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got 1.9g of clean harmalas from the used filters alone.
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.

== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2011-08-30T06:31:17Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* Step 6 - Manske */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (rock salt or iodine free table salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 big collection jars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|250px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}

[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

=== Step 6 - Manske ===
[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|350px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured below.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:

Recommended

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:

Prettier Crystals

Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured below.

The third way:

Not Recommended

Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmalas in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to repeat steps 5 - 8 at least 2 more times before proceeding to the next step.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got over a gram of harmalas from the used filters alone.
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.

== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2011-08-29T06:03:50Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* Step 6 - Manske */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (rock salt or iodine free table salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 big collection jars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|250px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}

[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

=== Step 6 - Manske ===
[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|350px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured below.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:
Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:
Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured below.

The third way (not recommended):
Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Once it cools off completely you should start to notice crystals starting to form on the top of the water. They will continue to grow for awhile. I left some undisturbed for two days and got spikes over an inch long.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmalas in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to repeat steps 5 - 8 at least 2 more times before proceeding to the next step.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got over a gram of harmalas from the used filters alone.
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.

== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2011-08-29T06:03:07Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* Step 6 - Manske */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (rock salt or iodine free table salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 big collection jars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|250px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}

[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

=== Step 6 - Manske ===
[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|350px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured below.

There are three ways you can perform the manske.

The first and the "official" way is:
Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution. Make sure your solution is hot before you add the salt, otherwise the harmalas might fall out too soon. Allow to cool slowly.

The second way by Phlux-:
Take note of how many ml's you have and saturate the same amount of fresh distilled water with salt. Add them together and allow to cool slowly. If the first solution wasn't overly saturated with alks, you should get needles that are similar to what's pictured below.

The third way:
Completely saturate the solution with salt and allow to cool.

Once it cools off completely you should start to notice crystals starting to form on the top of the water. They will continue to grow for awhile. I left some undisturbed for two days and got spikes over an inch long.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmalas in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to repeat steps 5 - 8 at least 2 more times before proceeding to the next step.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got over a gram of harmalas from the used filters alone.
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.

== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2011-08-29T03:24:45Z

Melodic Catastrophe: /* Step 6 - Manske */

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (rock salt or iodine free table salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 big collection jars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|250px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}

[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

=== Step 6 - Manske ===
[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|350px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured below.

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 10 grams salt per 100ml solution.

Allow this to cool at it's own pace.

Once it cools off completely you should start to notice crystals starting to form on the top of the water. They will continue to grow for awhile. I left some undisturbed for two days and got spikes over an inch long.

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmalas in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to repeat steps 5 - 8 at least 2 more times before proceeding to the next step.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got over a gram of harmalas from the used filters alone.
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.

== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2011-08-29T03:24:06Z

Melodic Catastrophe:

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (rock salt or iodine free table salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 big collection jars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|250px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}

[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

=== Step 6 - Manske ===
[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|350px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured below.

Take a note of how many ml's you have and add 20 grams salt per 100ml solution.

Allow this to cool at it's own pace.

Once it cools off completely you should start to notice crystals starting to form on the top of the water. They will continue to grow for awhile. I left some undisturbed for two days and got spikes over an inch long.

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''|The textbook way to prepare the manske is to dissolve 10g of salt for everyone 100ml of solution you have. So if you have 200ml, use 20g of salt.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmalas in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to repeat steps 5 - 8 at least 2 more times before proceeding to the next step.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got over a gram of harmalas from the used filters alone.
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.

== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2011-08-28T21:28:16Z

Melodic Catastrophe:

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (rock salt or iodine free table salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 big collection jars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|250px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}

[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

=== Step 6 - Manske ===
[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|350px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured below.

Take a note of how many ml's you have. You'll take that same amount of fresh distilled water, boil it and saturate it with salt. Once it's completely saturated you want to filter it and add it to your alkaloid solution.

Allow this to cool at it's own pace.

Once it cools off completely you should start to notice crystals starting to form on the top of the water. They will continue to grow for awhile. I left some undisturbed for two days and got spikes over an inch long.

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''|The textbook way to prepare the manske is to dissolve 10g of salt for everyone 100ml of solution you have. So if you have 200ml, use 20g of salt.
|22.2%
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}}

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmalas in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to repeat steps 5 - 8 at least 2 more times before proceeding to the next step.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.
Also refer to [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got over a gram of harmalas from the used filters alone.
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.

== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]

The Tao of Rue Extraction

2011-08-28T21:13:06Z

Melodic Catastrophe:

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Note:'''|This page is a transcription of Melodic Catastrophe's Tao of Rue Extraction Tek <ref>The Tao of Rue Extraction[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=23812]</ref>. The content is to remain accurate as such.}}

{{materials_list
|
* '''Syrian Rue''' (seeds)
|
* '''Water'''
|
* '''Salt''' (rock salt or iodine free table salt)
* '''Vinegar, Fumaric Acid or Citric Acid'''
* '''NaOH or Sodium Carbonate'''
|
* '''2 Funnels'''
* '''2 big collection jars'''
* '''Coffee Filters'''
* '''Cotton Balls'''
* '''1 Large Pot'''
* '''1 Small Pot'''
* '''1 Metal Screen / Strainer'''
* '''Syringe/Pipette/Turkey Baster'''
* '''Patience'''
}}
== Initial Notes ==

There really isn't anything new in this Tek, it's just refining what is already known. This is more about streamlining the process and making it easier to work with. Please take the time to review and integrate the existing harmala teks so you have a general idea of the process.

* [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]
* [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]
* [[Phlux's Telepathine Tek]]

== Background ==

I've been doing rue extractions for a little over a year now. Compared to extracting spice, it's quite an undertaking. There is a lot of hard work involved and it's a very time consuming process. Until recently, my rue extractions have been kind of hit and miss. While I always end up with something, my yields and methodology left a lot to be desired. This tek helps keep things rolling with the minimal amount of waste possible and great final yields.

== Credits ==

* Kudos to Endlessness for putting together the harmala extraction and separation guide<ref>[[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]]</ref> and to everyone who contributed to it.
* Kudos to Phlux- for his contribution to the Manske process<ref>caapi manske xtal pics[https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=21552]</ref>. It definitely leads to a far superior product in the end.
* Kudos to Gibran2 for his work with caapi extraction<ref>[[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]]</ref>.
* Kudos for Plumsmooth for pointing out the text book Manske technique.
* Kudos to everyone who has been pioneering harmala extractions this whole time.

== Method ==

=== Step 1 - Grind Seeds ===
Start by freezing the seeds for a day or so and grind them. Freezing them makes it easier to grind them.

=== Step 2 - Boil Seeds ===
Boil the seeds with a dash of vinegar, citric or fumaric acid. This is where I use the large pot and I fill it to just under the rim with the seeds, water and acid. I then let it boil down to where you can see the water is just covering the seeds. It usually takes about 1.5 – 2 hours. (I keep it on a pretty hard boil during this stage. Not so much on the reducing stage.)

Tip: Let the seeds settle for awhile before pouring the liquid out of the pot.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_01.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|I usually add little more water than this but I forgot to take a pic.]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_02.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When you can see the seeds at the bottom, the boil is about done.]]

=== Step 3 - Clean Brew ===

This is really a two part process but step 3a is optional if you want to keep the extraction process rolling along. It will just take more filtering supplies since you are processing all of the gunk instead of letting it settle.

==== 3a - Settle & Decant ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_11.jpg|thumb|250px|Allow everything to settle as much as possible and this will make filtering a lot easier later.]]

Pour everything through a strainer and into one of the large collection containers and allow it to settle at least overnight but longer won't hurt.

Then decant all of the murky yellow water off of the top and run it through filtering process shown in Step 3b to make sure that all insolubles are removed.

==== 3b - Filter, Filter, Filter! ====
[[File:Tao_of_rue_03.jpg|thumb|450px|Keep switching back and forth when the cotton/filters get clogged.]]

You want to begin the filtering process by first running the solution through the metal strainer to get the majority of the solids out of the tea. You'll want to add these solids back into the pot with fresh water and acid and continue to the boiling process while you filter the rest of the solution.

After you strain it you'll want to continue the filtering process by packing VERY loose cotton balls into the funnel. You want enough so that the cotton won't go through the hole when you add the liquid, but not enough to restrict the flow much.

These first few filter passes take the longest due to the amount of sludge that rue produces. This is why I prefer to use two funnels and collection jars. When the first funnel gets clogged, I decant the remaining liquid out and add it to the second collection jar until it gets clogged. When the second funnel gets clogged, I add fresh cotton to the first funnel and decant/transfer the liquid back over. I keep moving the tea back and forth until everything goes through and then I start the process over with tighter cotton.

Once it passes through the tightest cotton easily I move onto coffee filters and do the same process. If one gets clogged, move it to the other funnel. It's a real pain to get rue filtered properly but if you put in the effort you will be rewarded in the long run.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Important:'''|Before you base the brew you want it as clean as possible. If it cannot be filtered easily through a coffee filter, it is NOT ready. If all of that extra gunk is not removed, it makes it almost impossible to retrieve the alkaloids once they are freebased. Take the time to clean your brew and you will be rewarded later.}}

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Quote:'''|"Impatience and improper Prep makes low quality medicine.
Don't jump the gun, make something you can be proud of." - Dorge
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 4 - Reduce ===
Once you have the solution filtered, it's time to reduce it. By this time you should have a pretty clear tea. Mydriasis has proven that this step isn't required but some prefer to do it anyway.

When I did my last extraction it worked out so that towards the end I had seeds boiling, solution filtering and another reducing at the same time. I would just bounce back and forth between each one, stirring or decanting. It worked out really well.

=== Step 5 - Base ===
After you have boiled, reduced and cleaned at least 3 pulls/boils you want to perform the first freebase of the molecules. Before you base the brew, run it through a coffee filter one more time just to make sure it is as clean as possible.

After you have filtered the brew, we'll make a lye or sodium carbonate solution. I don't mind using lye in this step because we're going to filter our alks and then redissolve them into some more vinegar to filter them some more. On the final base, I prefer to use sodium carbonate to keep things safe.

{{ShowInfo|[[Image:Note_error.png]]|'''Warning:'''|Lye can be very dangerous if not handled with RESPECT. Always wear gloves and proper eye protection when working with powerful bases.}}

[[File:Tao_of_rue_04.jpg|thumb|350px|Keep adding until everything goes milky and then add a little more to be on the safe side.]]
Once you make a basic solution you'll want to add it slowly to your tea while stirring.

Keep adding it slowing while continuing to stir and you'll see the color changes starting to take place. Keep adding the base solution until everything goes milky.

That milky color is your alkaloids precipitating out.

You'll want to let this rest at least a few hours but preferably overnight or longer so that all of your alks can settle to the bottom.

Once your alks have settled, you want to decant as much of the basic liquid as possible.

After you have decanted, you want to add some hot vinegar and water to your alks to redissolve all of your alkaloids. Once everything is redissolved, filter out anything that won't dissolve. This is mostly plant matter and oils.

=== Step 6 - Manske ===
[[File:Tao_of_rue_05.jpg|thumb|350px|Let them sit as long as possible undisturbed so they can grow as big as possible. 24 hours is usually enough.]]
Once you have your freebase alks, redissolve them in a minimal amount of fresh, hot vinegar or as The Day Tripper pointed out, a fumaric acid solution. Day Trippers fumaric acid approach leads to chunkier crystals later. Vinegar will lead to needle like crystals as pictured below.

Take a note of how many ml's you have. You'll take that same amount of fresh distilled water, boil it and saturate it with salt. Once it's completely saturated you want to filter it and add it to your alkaloid solution.

Allow this to cool at it's own pace.

Once it cools off completely you should start to notice crystals starting to form on the top of the water. They will continue to grow for awhile. I left some undisturbed for two days and got spikes over an inch long.

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''|The textbook way to prepare the manske is to dissolve 10g of salt for everyone 100ml of solution you have. So if you have 200ml, use 20g of salt.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 7 - Filter ===
Once you are confident that no more growth is taking place, filter the solution with a coffee filter to collect all of the needles.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_06.jpg|thumb|c|center|450px|Looks a lot like fiberglass, eh?]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 8 - Redissolve ===
Redissolve your harmalas in a minimal amount of fresh hot water. It will take some heat (not too much) and time for everything to dissolve completely.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_07.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|When you first add the alks to the water]]

[[File:Tao_of_rue_08.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|When the alks are fully dissolved]]

=== Step 9 - Manske ===
Once everything is nice and dissolved, you'll want to run it through another coffee filter or two just to get rid of any final impurities. Now that it's nice and filtered, you'll want to do the manske in step 6 again. This time it will give you even purer crystals.

[[File:Tao_of_rue_09.jpg|thumb|c|left|370px|Beautiful harmala HCL crystals]]
[[File:Tao_of_rue_10.jpg|thumb|c|right|370px|A different angle]]

{{ShowInfo/In Article|[[Image:Information.png]]|'''Note:'''| Once again, depending on how much salt, water and time was used, you may want to keep the filtered solution and reduce it some more to "push" any stray alkaloids out.
|22.2%
|450px
}}

=== Step 10 - Filter ===
Once you're confident that the crystal growth has finished again, filter them through a coffee filter and redissolve them in hot water.

If you want ultra pure harmalas, it is recommended to repeat steps 5 - 8 at least 2 more times before proceeding to the next step.

=== Step 11 - Base & Separate ===
It is now time to do your final basing. This time you want to use a sodium carbonate solution so your end product is food safe with the minimal amount of washing required. Do the exact same process as step 5 except if you want to separate the harmine from the harmaline you'll want to raise the ph to 8.75 and filter. This will give you approx 92% of the harmine. You really don't need a PH pen to do this, it's quite possible to do it by eye. After you filter, raise the ph of the solution again to get your harmaline and filter once again.

For more information on this process refer to the [[Harmalas Extraction and Separation Guide]], step 17.

=== Step 12 - Finish up ===
Wash and dry your harmalas and enjoy!

Please refer to Gibran's [[Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide]], Removing Excess NaOH, Salts etc for more info.

== Final Notes and Tips ==
* Be sure to keep all used filters and cotton balls to the side and perform at least one final acid wash on them. I got over a gram of harmalas from the used filters alone.
* As stated throughout the Tek, the most important part is getting the brew as clean as possible.
* Patience is key for this Tek. Be prepared to spend at least two or more days working on this, especially if you're working with large quantities.

== Reference ==
<references/>

[[Category:Extraction Tek]]
[[Category:Allies and Associated Alkaloids]]